I believe the distinguishing feature between the 83 and 85 rules is that in 83 the wives and fiancees (but not fiances) were seen as 'passengers for settlement' and being 'admitted for settlement'. The husband was settled with ILE (or ILR) and was subject to accommodating the wife, etc for a period ...
If she was granted limited leave to enter, then I believe that 92 was also applicable. ... Apologies for my rambling - please feel free to delete those posts above :? Her entry clearance states 'for uk settlement', her uk visa was under 'holy marriage' category with a 'one-way journey to be used by...
But let that not dissuade you. If you wish, you can apply and it is possible that the caseworker looking at your case may not understand the nuances of British statute law in those times and grant you British citizenship. I think that's where the gravitas and canny wording of solicitors comes into ...
I think I'm right. After much reading, there's a difference between applying/granted settlement on the basis of marriage to a settled person, vs being admitted as a fiancee or spouse and intending to settle 'thereafter', as they said. In these latter cases you need to apply for an extension to stay....
My mother's entry clearance application was actually right around the time of the implementation of the 1985 rules. The previous rules appear to grant settled status by default, the '85 rules didn't appear to do so ... but 125 suggests maybe. Anyway I'm still of the view that she was expected to mar...
My interpretation is the stamp is a signal to get married or continue marriage within that 3 months, and afterwards the wife should be deemed settled, unless there's contrary evidence.
If she was forced to apply for extended stay after X months one would assume that would be made clear in the visa.
See also Statement of changes in immigration rules Feb 1983 Statement of change in immigration rules July 1985 Statement of change in immigration rules May 1986 You're incredible haha. That seems very confusing as there are different cases, and one part (125) says the wife may be deemed settled aft...
This may be tricky as it dates back 30 years ago. My father settled here in the 80s. My mother was living in Germany at the time. They then married in Germany, then she obtained a visa from the British Consulate in Dusseldorf to settle here in 1986. Her entry clearance states 'for UK settlement'. He...
I don't understand your points Simon - if permanent records are kept for the indigenous population how is it unreasonable to permanently record who settled here? Also whilst I agree that missing modern day GRO records are very rare, they will still exist, and missing records abroad will definitely o...
Most departments have data retention policies and destroy records after a certain period of time anyway. I would not think that a 30 year old ILR document would survive this far anyway. You can try applying for an SAR (it is only £10), but I would not hold out much hope of finding any useful inform...
a declaration by the High Court, that on a balance of probability you are indeed a British Citizen. How do you go about doing that? Seems better than dealing with the Home Office. I'm very surprised there hasn't been a massive class-action lawsuit against the Home Office for destroying records - th...
... Understood, but say the sponsor does exercise treaty rights, and they're living together in the UK for say 2-3 years, then they go on holiday and then return to the UK - Does the wife get another 6 months leave to enter stamp? If the wife had a RC she could use that ofcourse (in which case - no...
I have a Q - What's the purpose behind giving a wife 3 or 6 months leave to enter the UK, if the wife has no time limit on their stay? And say wives who have a 2-3 year UK spousal visa, do they get these stamps when (re)entering the UK as well? Thanks If you're referring to the original query, for ...
I have a Q - What's the purpose behind giving a wife 3 or 6 months leave to enter the UK, if the wife has no time limit on their stay? And say wives who have a 2-3 year UK spousal visa, do they get these stamps when (re)entering the UK as well?
I can't believe this is the kind of thing that goes on in 2016, this thread and the forum generally. You'd think there are better and more important things to do in life. It's like a sci-fi film, the people vs malfunctioning evil robots. Britain is messed up.
Agreed, though it seems pretty standard for wives to recieve this stamp, after being admitted as the wife of an EEA national, without a family permit. I was just clarifying the basis for admission and the difference between Leave to Enter vs Remain.
I don't understand how the issue of a different name in a cancelled foreign passport can crop up with those born in the UK. Either Sylvia made a bad decision to send it unnecessarily, or dual nationals are spied on and subjected to more scrutiny.
Can we have any update please? I had not received any apologies or any letter explaining why they changed their minds and decided to approve the application. It is sad that you have to fight for your rights. It looks like there are many incompetent people working for HO. I my case I have succeeded,...
Sorry to bump an old thread but for sake of clarity: Both the Russian wife in my above post and the Belarussian wife in the OP are visa nationals; they were admitted via marriage to their EEA spouse, else they'd have been refused due to no visa. To SecretSimon - The stamps were therefore not issued ...
How did they know about this cancelled Polish passport in a different name? Did you send it to them or did the birth certificate amendment flag up suspicion?
I concur with those in the thread saying the government should be taken to court and have this injustice put right.
I felt it to be an interesting thread and worth a reply. Well there isn't much difference between jus soli and sanguinis, the latter just refers to ancestry born there; in the UKs case determined by cut-off dates. I've read jus soli was in the UK for about 900 years, even if it's 400 or so, my point...
If your parents are immigrants you're screwed because the Home Office deletes records after 10-15 years. They treat the children of immigrants as scum, by law and in real life practicality. Britain had birthright citizenship for nearly a 1000 years too, until the 80s. beloved has been increasing sin...