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by nordize
Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:29 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: simultaneous passport & citizenship application - duration?
Replies: 1
Views: 264

simultaneous passport & citizenship application - duration?

Hi all, Are there any stats at all about the applications made for citizenship+passport simultaneously? (I did look at the two dedicated threads for each) I made such an application (submitted a joint application for both citizenship and passport, which is now allowed) and I had the citizenship cere...
by nordize
Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:03 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate beforehand
Replies: 7
Views: 564

Re: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate before

I was only interested in whether proof of address and proof of emplyment is required (in the title of the post I made, which was merged, I specified I already obtained a PR card ... not sure why the posts were merged). I read the AN guide once again: - it doesn't require proof of address (only a lis...
by nordize
Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:02 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate beforehand
Replies: 7
Views: 564

which documents for citizenship? (for EEA with PR Card)

I've read the FAQ, it's still not 100% clear to me whether I need to show: - proof of exercising EEA treaty rights for the 5 years (P60s, letters from employers, etc) - proof of address in the UK for the 5 years of exercising EEA treaty rights (utility bills etc) The AN guide doesn't mention them bu...
by nordize
Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:11 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate beforehand
Replies: 7
Views: 564

Re: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate before

vinny wrote:Must.
Well, that settles it. It also cleared the confusion about waiting 12 months after obtaining the PR card (which is not necessary).

Thanks very much.
by nordize
Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:07 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: From 12/11 PR Document Required for Citizenship Application
Replies: 90
Views: 19788

Re: From 12/11 PR Document Required for Citizenship Applicat

So a tl:dr for EEA nationals would be: An EEA national does not have to wait 5 years + obtain PR card + 1 year before applying for citizenship but can apply immediately after 5+1 years provided a PR card is obtained any time during the last 1 year based on exercising treaty rights for the first 5 ye...
by nordize
Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:47 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate beforehand
Replies: 7
Views: 564

Re: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate before

Just to add that I'm aware of this spreadsheet of timelines and outcomes, but it doesn't say if a PR card was obtained prior to the AN application (unless "IRL=Indefinite Leave to Remain" in column M implies that a PR card was obtained before applying for citizenship).
by nordize
Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:19 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: AN application, obtaining a residence certificate beforehand
Replies: 7
Views: 564

AN application, obtaining a residence certificate beforehand

Dear all, Apologies if this has been asked before (couldn't find a clear answer). I'm an EEA national who has spent the last 5 years under lawful employment int he UK. I could wait another 11-12 months and apply under the 5 years EEA route. However the AN guide says: You should apply for a permanent...
by nordize
Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:08 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

The govt since 2011 also requires it for studying whereas before it didn't. No, at the time I wasn't thinking I would apply for citizenship, hence I did not do any digging - you are correct, there is no legal case. Unambiguous or not, I find the CSI requirement for PR but not for studies (and the re...
by nordize
Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:48 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

I wasn't paid (I don't think I said that). I was a full time PhD student, i.e. did not take paid work. I only got my NI number in Dec 2010. The paragraph I quoted (quoted again above by @noajthan) explains that there is an exemption from CSI if you were issued with a student working certificate, how...
by nordize
Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:02 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Ok, called and spoke to Amy - very helpful, double checked with someone else (putting me on hold) several times before confirming some of the answers, so I believe what she said. She wasn't aware of the student registration certificate thing and asked me to tell her the full URL. She then opened it ...
by nordize
Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:10 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Thanks again. I was just about to call them now - I have the same experience with the UKBA regarding consistency from 5 years ago (consistency was dreadful, although they all sounded extremely willing to help, and also convincing).
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:55 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

@noajthan, Indeed the Ahmad case is from 2014 (I realized in my post above). I'll call the HO. You're definitely right wrt that exemption meaning there were different rules/consideration prior to June 2011 which are worth exploiting.

@LilyLalilu, see my post above above.
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:38 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Sorry, the Ahmad case is indeed from 2014 (I googled the wrong thing .. there is an Ahmed v the same body case from 1995 ... I need more coffee, or sleep). Waiting 4 months wouldn't be a big deal. But 1 year and 4 months would. You say you work in higher ed (I presume UK). Is that Cambridge or Oxfor...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:29 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Aha, the game's afoot. I think the point may be CSI was not asked for before some date in 2011. So it may not matter you didn't have it before then. And this card guarantees some sort of transitional arrangement that appears to carry on after 2011. I don't know this by direct experience so you will...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:18 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Actually, it would only save me about 1 month ...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:51 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Did you have a non-UK EHIC whilst you were a student? If so, you may be able to use this as a replacement for CSI. For this to count, you should submit a self-declaration with your application stating that during your studies, you were only planning on staying temporarily, and then changed your min...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:45 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

I'll have PR in 4 months since I have been working for 4 years and 8 months. So I'll have that going for me which is nice :) . As vicious as the current govt is, they can't pull out of the EU in 4 months (they need a national referendum, then ratify it etc). But they won't even try it. For the jobse...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:19 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

The Ahmed case is from 1995 ... wow. Still, this post here which is from Aug 2015 says their solicitors successfully argued that the NHS should be counted as her comprehensive. I'm back on the fence.
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:05 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Reading http://www.vwv.co.uk/what-s-happening/publications-updates/elb-comprehensive-sickness-insurance-for-eea-members-exercising-a-treaty-right-as-a-student and the "Best practice" section therein at the end, it almost reads like EEA students who do not have CSI do not have the right to ...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:53 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

CSI = Comprehensive Health Insurance? ... shouldn't that read CHI? :) Cambridge colleges are not your typical "UK college". They are independent institutions, not part of the University of Cambridge. You become a member of both the university and a college, and you pay a separate (and heft...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:12 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Thanks for the replies. I take it that CSI means Comprehensive Student Insurance? (the medical one) From what you're saying, I don't see many options for me other than wait 1y and 4m before applying. I don't think I had CSI as a student, unless paying a college fee at Cambridge (this is different th...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:30 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

No, I'm not from an A8 country. Also, see my reply above.
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:16 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Re: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/stud

Thanks for the reply. As I said, I did read the guide, booklet, form, and the FAQ here and as far as I can see, in my case I would need: - letters from employer confirming employment for the past 4y 8m (or P60 certificates) - letter from university confirming I was a student for the duration and, as...
by nordize
Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:08 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student
Replies: 32
Views: 2925

Exercising EU treaty rights - 5 years of mixed work/student

Hi, Thanks everyone for a great forum. I'll try to keep this short. I did read the FAQ-Q5 on this topic, the AN form, guide, and booklet. - My country joined the EU in Jan 2007. - I have been living in the UK as an EU national for the past 8 years and 8 months. - The first 4 years of that period I w...