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by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:40 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

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by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:18 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

error, copy and paste to the amended & cleaned up post. Mods, delete this. Where is the delete button btw?
by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:08 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Unless i misunderstood what you said about the mobile dnt tell me you also started using mobile over night because you were slagged on your grammar,am not perfect myself but check this out-Since the ban on Irishtom,you started appearing online every hour even late at night,that was rare.Now when di...
by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:57 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

morris, if you are going to someone a liar, get your facts right. dept of justice is split into various sections.some are based outside dublin,some have separate buildings and websites. the inis is just one of many different sections.i never said that i did not spend time at justice, i was in prison...
by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:09 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

The purpose of this thread is to discuss dercei. the consenus is that it's not clear cut, it's open to interpretation. well discuss. if not don't comment here, because as usual people prefer to go off topic to suit themselves. It is advisable, for transparency to base any further discussion on links...
by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:44 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

You do realise that German Banks directly invested in property here.Europe is not to blame for Ireland's economic mess,Ireland is.You do realise that the economic problems are all over Europe,not just Ireland.Germany got a bit of a scare today!You do realise that EU can't interefere on non eu law im...
by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:13 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Mayor of Naas,dear lord, realising that your clutching at straws, going no where, use old trusty race card, brilliant. If that chap's allegations are true I see what he means.Bully boy tactics won't be tolerated by people in the real world. Don't go thinking that was a victory, it will be all forgot...
by walrusgumble
Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:02 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Regulator, you are utterely self serving. You pick on grammer errors and carelessness of posts, but you are unable to challenge the legal validity of anything that has being said.Mobiles are not ideal for typing.If this was an oral presentation,which you would never have an excuse.Now deal with why ...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:33 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

ok Mr wals lets wait for the upcoming Ecj case(s),am sure there would be more cases aiming properly at Dereci.Until then I reserve comments.One more question,tho thanks for letting me know Turkey is an aspirant member state as you said.Just answer this question for me-Mr Dereci won his case by free...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:48 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Just two questions-How did you know those citizen applications were already approved before Shatter and the high court cases(oh you heard from someone?well tell that person he/she is a lier) You said that is why they are paragraphs in the judgment for you to look at the main stuff-So thats what you...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:41 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Everybody is a gobshite,what about yourself?by the way how old are you?you are lack maturity and manners.You are contradicting yourself.You know what I rest my argument with you,i am very sure those with intelligent mind can compare our points.You lack understanding,what you trying to act?typing ir...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:00 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

First of all,most people under stamp1,2,3 has upgraded,secondly most cases were withdrawn from the court and they have been granted residency(those in the state) again those citizenship granted this year,would still pending for ages if Shatter didnt come in.Dermot Ahern would have done worse than t...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:56 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

@wals i thought you were good at eu law but you proved otherwise.Its completely waste of time exchanging words with you.Refering you to para 76-96 of the ''full Judgment on Dereci''(I mentioned full judgment cos am astonished you dont know what NAG means,perharps you have not read the judgment or y...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:03 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Divorce with EU
Replies: 19
Views: 4562

Re: Divorce with EU

hello guys, i have prob. or will have soon. Im from Pakistan and married with Eu woman, we knew each other 5 years and almost 3 years we are married. But year ago she left me and she wants divorce now. I will try to ask her to wait till september, its gonna be 3 years since we married. My question ...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:29 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

The reality of Irish and EU law has played out to be absurd, unjust and unequal. I fail to understand the logic of the Irish Dept of Justice and Equality that leaves Irish Citizens second class. I fail to understand the logic of the EU court, aiming at an internal market, and completing it, while a...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:06 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Zambrano-Ecj did not elaborate if one or both of the non eu parents can stay with the child,they rather took the best interest of the child to avoid second class Eu minors i.e Eu minors should not be deprived for any reason,regarding nationality and status of their parents.You need to stop criticis...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:45 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

While waiting for you to answer my previous question,I just thought i should lecture you properly.Mr Dereci's was differentiated from other çases-First of all,mr dereci was not an alien(third country national).Referrimg to (para.76-96) The judge stated,the law on aliens were applicable to the provi...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:04 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

@Wals please correct me if i am wrong. CHEN-The non eu parent can exercise the child's right by moving to another memberstate and on the basis of the child and self sufficiency(1 of the 3 qualifications) but as we both know thats unlikely possible for the non eu parent,This is not different from th...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:34 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

legal ground to support my case?What a dream,you are really in a world of illusion,get back to your senses.Back to my question and dont play smart,diverting from my question.Yes zambrano applies 100% if both parents are non eu,now to make it simple why didnt the Ecj Judge say one of the parents(bot...
by walrusgumble
Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:25 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

legal ground to support my case?What a dream,you are really in a world of illusion,get back to your senses.Back to my question and dont play smart,diverting from my question.Yes zambrano applies 100% if both parents are non eu,now to make it simple why didnt the Ecj Judge say one of the parents(bot...
by walrusgumble
Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:17 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Infact to be completely honest,The Ecj Judge did not want a large amount of cost on the Austrian Goverment that is the only reason they somehow step aside dereci's case from other cases by using the Ankara policy.The ruling was for other cases linked to McCarthy and for others who have decided to b...
by walrusgumble
Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:04 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

Why the restrictions are in place? To put it bluntly, to stop encouraging relationships starting or being used as a side step into the immigration system for failed asylum seekers and illegals. THat is the reality! Many of these people (regardless of their colour, race etc) would never have got a v...
by walrusgumble
Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:58 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

I’ve read through the Judgement. It is pretty much what I would have expected. The questions were narrow, requesting clarification, and seemed to come from the Austrian Administrative Court itself. I’d like to see what decision the Austrian Court finally takes. Does anyone know why Bundesministeriu...
by walrusgumble
Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:53 am
Forum: Ireland
Topic: Link to Dereci Judgment
Replies: 83
Views: 13762

I’ve read through the Judgement. It is pretty much what I would have expected. The questions were narrow, requesting clarification, and seemed to come from the Austrian Administrative Court itself. I’d like to see what decision the Austrian Court finally takes. Does anyone know why Bundesministeriu...
by walrusgumble
Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:46 pm
Forum: Ireland
Topic: New Irish case reported by the Irish times
Replies: 77
Views: 11360

Well i am not sure what you are talking about, in UK courts, a reported case is considered binding upon a lower court, but an unreported case like the one mentioned above, can be persuasive but certainly not binding. There is a clear distinction between binding and persuasive. Before a case is repo...