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by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:39 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: devil's advocate please - 4L c)

I have exhausted my options. The UK Ancestry Visa is out of reach. The $10,000 application fee (primarily health surcharge) is far above my ability to manage. I can support myself frugally with pensions, I've done it before in England and I do it here. I have a small online business that makes very ...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: devil's advocate please - 4L c)

I thought that if I apply using 4L c) I could describe the situation in depth, emphasing that I accumulated 5.5 years residence in total, although not consecutively (3 years, then 2.5 years with 1.5 years in between) because of the situation with my marriage. Home Office has evidence of it's own if ...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: devil's advocate please - 4L c)

Thank you. Yes, I know it would be a long-shot to apply under 4L c) and my emotions get the better of me. But I may take the risk if ROA doesn't work. I've researched ROA and I'm not hopeful but I will wait for secret.simon to see if he can help me to understand how it would work.
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:22 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

devil's advocate please - 4L c)

I wish I understood a bit more about BNA 1981 section 4L c) exceptional circumstances. It appears to be unrelated to a) or b) but to personal circumstances that derailed a person's journey to British citizenship rather than legislative or public authority issues. I keep going back to my original tho...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: British subject in 1943, suddenly NOT in 1949??

When I search government pages with regard to ROA, they specify that the parent be born in the UK.

I keep looking at the latest Act and still can't see where it applies to me.
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: British subject in 1943, suddenly NOT in 1949??

Have I jumped the gun here? I understand how my father would have been eligible for ROA based on section 2 (1) (b) (i) but secret.simon quotes section section 2 (1) as suppoort for me to be eliglble but that section states: " a person is under this Act to have the right of abode in the UK if: (...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:19 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: British subject in 1943, suddenly NOT in 1949??

Well, I'm gobsmacked...to say the least. I've just read the government information with regard to Right of Abode. I have all the required birth and marriage certificates. By all accounts I am eligible for ROA. And I am more than satisfied with that. I realize that my reasons for wanting to live in E...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:50 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: British subject in 1943, suddenly NOT in 1949??

I thank you so much, secret.simon for taking the time to give me such a thorough explanation. It's early in the morning here and I'm not fully awake. As soon as my head clears I will sit down and go through your post. I'm looking forward to understanding things. I've been trying to navigate through ...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

British subject in 1943, suddenly NOT in 1949??

The 1914 British Nationality & Status of Aliens Act states: Definition of a natural-born British subject a) any person born within His Majesty's dominions and allegiance. b) any person born outside ....(required to be registered in a British Consulate) Canada was within His Majesty's dominions. ...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:01 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Registering a Person Born Before January 1, 1949

The more I research, the more clear and straightforward it becomes...I think. I have read in Home Office guidance the following with regard to consular births: "For registration of a birth in a British Consulate, the birth must be registered in accordance with the legal requirements of the coun...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:34 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Registering a Person Born Before January 1, 1949

I've put together a timeline of all that I know and have documentation for or have ordered documentation for, to help explain what I am hoping to do. Paternal great grandfather: Born 1857, Liverpool, UK Died: 1887, Liverpool, UK Paternal Grandfather: Born: 1881, Liverpool. UK Sent to Canada at age 6...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:50 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

There is so much research to be done without even leaving this forum and I am so grateful for that...although my confusion grows as well. I have tentatively concluded that I have been barking up the wrong tree when focusing on 4L. I have seen here and on another forum, examples of folks applying for...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

I have done further research and have gotten some advise and am looking at two options. There is a question that needs to be answered before I can decide which, if any, is doable in my situation. it has been established that discrimination did exist with regard to women not being able to pass Britis...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:38 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Thank you. I will do as you suggest. Speaking to a solicitor in the UK would be helpful . I'll wait 'til I receive the documents I have requested so I can be more clear when I explain my situation. Thank you again for your help.
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:27 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Thank you. I've requested my father's military records and also requested my UK immigration records. Once I've received them, I'll be able to decide what to do next. As far as consulting a British immigration solicitor is concerned, besides the cost involved, I am not feeling very hopeful at the mom...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:09 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Thank you. I have requested my father's military records, just waiting for them to arrive. Hopefully the records will tell me where he was stationed and when he was discharged and returned to Canada. I'm certain of the timing but need to be able to present proof. I'm not going to see a lawyer about ...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

I have done further research and have discovered that Canada had missions in both the Netherlands and Belgium where my father was posted. However both embassies were forced to evacuate and relocate to London during the war and were not re-established until 1947. I also learned that in 1945 Canadian ...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:03 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

With regard to my initial post: I had wondered why only children born after 1948 were able to be registered as British but after consultation with a UK immigration expert I understand that there is no age discrimination in a case such as mine because my father had the right to register me within one...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:47 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Just to clarify, in light of thoughts expressed in an above post: 1) apologies for the "wall of text". I was trying to be thorough and clear, didn't mean to overdo. 2) I did not apply for ILR based on domestic abuse because I was not a victim of domestic abuse. I was, as was my husband, th...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:52 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

thank you contorted_svy. You have given me food for thought. I do wish I had been able to get as far down the path as ILR as it would have helped a great deal I'm sure but, on the other hand, ILR is not the first step on the path so I was hoping that the distance I had come and the route I was plann...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Points a) and b) clearly deal with errors/unfairness within the system. Point c) seem to me to be completely outside of that sphere. But, rather, deals with exceptional circumstances in a person's life that prevented them from applying for British Citizenship. In my case, I began down the path to ci...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:21 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Historical legislative unfairness ins one of three points considered in 4L. The second is 'an act or omission of a public authority' and the third ' exceptional circumstances relating to the applicant' If a person lost out on attaining automatic acquisition, there is no fee for the application. Ther...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:09 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

Thank you for responding. Yes, it was difficult. I did get permission from Home Office a few times to find a room nearby to rent so that I could still be near when needed but it always triggered my husband's anger and paranoia so that he would contact Home Office and tell them the relationship was o...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:22 pm
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Section 4L c) exceptional circumstances

I started another thread a few days ago with regard to a possible path to British Citizenship because of a) historical legislative unfairness. This path to citizenship is denied to me due to my date of birth (pre-1949). I was thinking that might be considered unfairness due to discrimination against...
by LeftMyHeartInEngland
Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:41 am
Forum: British Citizenship
Topic: devil's advocate please - 4L c)
Replies: 40
Views: 3568
Canada

Re: section 4L, acquisition by registration:special circumstances

Oops! Apologies. My mistake, above reference was not Gov.UK but a UK Immigration law office website.

Back to the drawingboard. Looking for something more official.

Sorry for the mixup. :(