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thats very odd. but you can submitTreatyRightsMan wrote:Gents,
Just a quick update and request for your valuable advice on another yet bizarre experience with the NCS and HO. Following the successful naturalization of my partner and son (see previous thread), I went to the NCS today to submit my own application on the basis of being spouse of a UK citizen.
I had expected a fairly straightforward application, especially after having gone through the trouble of actually obtaining the EEA3 permanent residency document (obtained on the basis of having exercised Treaty Rights between Sep 2007 and Sep 2012). I was very surprised to learn that my application would not not go through as apparently my evidence in support of my 3 year residency in the UK for the period between 31 march 2011 and 31 march 2014 was not deemed solid enough by the NCS agent.
I provided the agent with P60s for the tax years 2010/2011 and 2011/2012 as well as the P45 of my most recent employment prior to plunging into my longest spell of unemployment in the summer of 2012, lasting until present. I was on JSA for quite a long time before deciding to stop it following the receipt of a job offer which never materialized into an actual job. left with no other option, I then reopened my claim. I provided the NCS agent with both award letters but she was still not satisfied as she pointed to the gap during which I was waiting for my job to start (approximately 6 months) with no running JSA claim. I was clearly in the country and not breaking my residency. I find it slightly odd to be penalized effectively for having saved the UK government 6 months of unemployment benefits which I was clearly entitled to... Or am I missing something here?
Grateful if somebody could explain to me how to provide the HO with solid evidence to convince them that I was actually there during the past 3 years. The problem is that my passport never gets stamped so I kind of understand that the HO has somewhat limited ability to check my absences.
Can you suggest any alternative documents I can submit to cover the period between the summer of 2012 until now? I have a P60U covering the 2012/2013 tax year and presumably there will be another one arriving sometime soon as we are nearing the end of tax year 2013/2014 . Would those two documents be sufficient to provide rock solid evidence ? If yes, how soon can I expect the P60U to come through?
Many thanks for your help!
Dear [x]
I refer to my application for UK citizenship on the basis of s6 2 spouse of UK citizen yesterday customer number [x]
As you might recall we were unable to submit the application to the home office for consideration due to an apparent lack of evidence of my residence in the UK for the past 3 years.
I have now had a chance (following half a day of almost continuous calling... ) to speak to the home office nationality helpline myself outlining my situation to the call centre person. He referred me to page 14 of guide AN which clearly states that government entity documents are perfectly acceptable as proof. When probing further he confirmed to me that, contrary to the information provided by yourself during our session, there are many more ways than just p60s or job seekers allowance benefit letters to confirm my residence in the country in the absence of any employment.
2 pieces of evidence which were confirmed to me as being perfectly acceptable were council tax bills and award letters from the HMRC regarding child tax credit covering the residential qualifying period.
I would like to remind you that I did have my child tax credit annual statements clearly stating my name and covering the last 3 years with me as well as full information from my local authority confirming my residence (council tax bills etc) . when I mentioned this fact to you, you indicated that they would not hold as evidence. However this seems to be contradicting what the home office helpline was telling me on other government entities being accepted.
In light of these findings I would like to kindly ask you to rebook another appointment free of charge at your discretion to compensate for what I believe to have been slight oversight.
I continue to think very highly of the standard of service provided by [x] council and look forward to using your service in future. Please feel free to call me if you wish to discuss this further.
Best wishes
TreatyRightsMan wrote:Thanks Runie. Unfortunately none of the above you mentioned would convince the agent that I was resident in the UK...
See my complaint email to the NCS which just went through. I am hoping to get at least a courtesy rebooking free of charge after all this hassle... I doubled checked with the nationality hotline today and they confirmed to me that there are many ways to confirm your residency other than P60s and JSA letters, contrary to the claim of the NCS agent...
Dear [x]
I refer to my application for UK citizenship on the basis of s6 2 spouse of UK citizen yesterday customer number [x]
As you might recall we were unable to submit the application to the home office for consideration due to an apparent lack of evidence of my residence in the UK for the past 3 years.
I have now had a chance (following half a day of almost continuous calling... ) to speak to the home office nationality helpline myself outlining my situation to the call centre person. He referred me to page 14 of guide AN which clearly states that government entity documents are perfectly acceptable as proof. When probing further he confirmed to me that, contrary to the information provided by yourself during our session, there are many more ways than just p60s or job seekers allowance benefit letters to confirm my residence in the country in the absence of any employment.
2 pieces of evidence which were confirmed to me as being perfectly acceptable were council tax bills and award letters from the HMRC regarding child tax credit covering the residential qualifying period.
I would like to remind you that I did have my child tax credit annual statements clearly stating my name and covering the last 3 years with me as well as full information from my local authority confirming my residence (council tax bills etc) . when I mentioned this fact to you, you indicated that they would not hold as evidence. However this seems to be contradicting what the home office helpline was telling me on other government entities being accepted.
In light of these findings I would like to kindly ask you to rebook another appointment free of charge at your discretion to compensate for what I believe to have been slight oversight.
I continue to think very highly of the standard of service provided by [x] council and look forward to using your service in future. Please feel free to call me if you wish to discuss this further.
Best wishes