proof of residence and self sufficiency on different address

[Universal soldier]

hi guys,

If EU national and non-eu national have been living together but now due to personal reason non-eu and EU national partners are living at different addresses but are totally in agreement. So, when sending the application of permanent residence then of course the bank statements which shows EU national self sufficiency and proof of residence too if have different address than the NON-EU national address of bank statements then will that cause problem?

[Imshzd]

No problem at all.

[Universal soldier]

For EU route applications, can the online statements showing bank monogram, individual bank sort code & account number and balances are acceptable which of course is verifiable. Has anyone tried online statements for supporting EU related applications.

[Imshzd]

On line bank statements are acceptable if relevant bank place stamp on each paper.
Without bank stamp on the online bank statements are not acceptable.

[Universal soldier]

On line bank statements are acceptable if relevant bank place stamp on each paper.
Without bank stamp on the online bank statements are not acceptable.

Any source about it excluding the one in ukba website which is for applications under uk points based rule.

[Imshzd]

Read page number 7 on EEA 2 and EEA 4 form.

[Universal soldier]

Do you know that some banks online statements if printed out colored then no difference with original. And some banks duplicate replacement bank statements which come at postal address is like an online print out copy especially Barclays and llyods.

[Imshzd]

Then try your luck with uncertified online statements.
Best of luck.

[Universal soldier]

imshzd
What do you think that its correct that if per yar at least 6 monts of residence and treaty rights evidences of EU national is available the caseworker will satisfy.

[Imshzd]

If PR then 6 month treaty rights and proof of residence in the UK,per year meet the requirement.

[Universal soldier]

Thanks for reply. I also predict same. Do you know any link/source/guidance / caseworker manual which further back this concept.

[Universal soldier]

is there anyone know such link/source/caseworker manual/policy guideline/clue that if each year at least 6 months of residence and treaty rights evidence of EU national is available then it will be fine.

[chaoclive]

I don't know of anything like that.

What about making a Freedom of Information request to the Home Office via this website: http://whatdotheyknow.com. You will have to register.

Phrase the request specifically saying that you can't find the info you want and that you want access to their caseworker notes/internal guidance/training materials etc.

[Universal soldier]

If EU and non-EU national married partners are living on different addresses and are informally separated without initiating any divorce or formal separation agreement then does this mean that non-eu national ceases to be family member of EU national or not?

when a married non-eu partner ceases to be the family member of eu national?

[Jambo]

when a married non-eu partner ceases to be the family member of eu national?

When he stops to be a family member i.e. divorced. Separation is not a divorce.

[Universal soldier]

when a married non-eu partner ceases to be the family member of eu national?

When he stops to be a family member i.e. divorced. Separation is not a divorce.

Thanks jambo for your input.
1. So it means only divorce stops the status of being EU family member but the question is that whether when divorce starts or finalized then this happens??

2. Moreover, If EU national is self sufficient but bank statements of EU and non-EU national are showing different addresses then would it be fine or the address should be same to meet criteria?

[Jambo]

You need to be married to meet the criteria. Nothing else.

1. You are still married until the divorce is finalised.
2. You are still married even if you live in different addresses.

[Universal soldier]

hi guys,
Whether is it necessary for proving the proof of residence & self sufficiency that the address must show on bank statement because if you get bank statement from inside the bank then they give you statement but without address showing on it. Only shows person name, funds and other account details.

Question:
Since the bank statements serves two purposes, self sufficiency & proof of residence so, If for only few months (3-4 months), the EU national bank statements are not showing address but there are handsome funds for self sufficiency then will it be fine or the caseworker really want to see the address too on it?

[Universal soldier]

hi guys,
Whether is it necessary for proving the proof of residence & self sufficiency that the address must show on bank statement because if you get bank statement from inside the bank then they give you statement but without address showing on it. Only shows person name, funds and other account details.

Question:
Since the bank statements serves two purposes, self sufficiency & proof of residence so, If for only few months (3-4 months), the EU national bank statements are not showing address but there are handsome funds for self sufficiency then will it be fine or the caseworker really want to see the address too on it?

[UKBA HUNTER]

I donot think that not having home address on few bank statements should cause any problem as long as it display funds, account number, and holder name because ukba not have any interest that where you/EU national live. Address display on bank statements may help unmarried partners but certainly not much for married partners.

[askmeplz82]

You worrying too much, it's really doesn't matter for married couple. You can live in London and she can live in Scotland and still self sufficient as long she has access to funds.

- she can go to the bank and withdraw showing her ID / passport
- or withdraw using bank card if she have one

[Universal soldier]

Thanks mr. Hunter and askmeplz. And how about if 2 different bank statements e.g few bank statements from different bank for self sufficiency. Whether different banks bank statement with funds are fine for self sufficiency?

[UKBA HUNTER]

For self sufficiency & residence proof even multiple banks's bank statements can be used even each month different bank statement as long as the funds and transactions are revealing. Moreover, i do not think if few online bank statements or few different bank statements without address on it along with majority of official statements with address on it at top of these can cause any problem.

[Universal soldier]

Hi,

Is that still correct that there is no fixed amount outlined by UKBA/EU authorities which an EU national must possess for self sufficiency? If EU national and its family is living without claiming public funds then is that correct to say that whatever balance/funds an EU national & family hold will meet self sufficiency criteria?

Is there any rule changed so far been which enable ukba to impose any threshold for EU national and its family members to become self sufficient?

[Universal soldier]

since there is no fixed amount/threshold outlined for self sufficiency but ukba guideline suggest the following guidance to assess that whether the funds are sufficient or not. can someone specially Amber answer that at present what is the maximum level of resources when uk national can claim benefits by reading following, maybe calculating that figure solve the ambiguous concept about self sufficiency:

Assessing sufficient resources:
This page tells you how to assess if a European Economic Area national self-sufficient person or student and their family members have sufficient resources.
The immigration (EEA) Regulations 2006 (the regulations) states a European Economic Area (EEA) national self-sufficient person or student and their family members must have enough resources not to become a burden on the social assistance system of the UK.
When deciding if an EEA national and their family members have enough resources you must first check if they exceed the maximum level of resources a UK national and their family members can have to get social assistance under the UK benefit system.
If they exceed the maximum level you must accept they have enough resources.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 0_0EXT.pdf
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