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They mean Spouse visa, not Marriage Visitor visa. Sorry about the confusion. They still have a few kinks to work out in their documentation.michaelionheart wrote: Yes but what i am saying is can't i switch to just the MARRIAGE visa from my Fiance visa? it says i can do that on the bottom of the Fiance visa page. "You should apply for a marriage visa from within the UK when you are married, and will then be eligible to work freely in the UK. " http://www.workpermit.com/uk/fiance.htm
He's already said she doesn't work so unless she has $100,000 in savings the whole thing is academical.....Casa wrote:Yes as per my post but this may take several months unless you apply for FLR(M) (a spouse visa...you call a marriage visa) in person for a premium fee of an additional £400 making it over £1,000 (in addition to the Fiance visa fee). Do you and your girlfriend have the funds for these visas?
But he's also said she is perfectly fit and capable of working. I stand by my earlier recommendation. And that is not academic. It is entirely doable and realistic.Wanderer wrote:He's already said she doesn't work so unless she has $100,000 in savings the whole thing is academical.....Casa wrote:Yes as per my post but this may take several months unless you apply for FLR(M) (a spouse visa...you call a marriage visa) in person for a premium fee of an additional £400 making it over £1,000 (in addition to the Fiance visa fee). Do you and your girlfriend have the funds for these visas?
I entirely agree and saw your post. It's the practical way forward for the OP. Just the OP doesn't seem to want to consider that option...ouflak1 wrote:But he's also said she is perfectly fit and capable of working. I stand by my earlier recommendation. And that is not academic. It is entirely doable and realistic.Wanderer wrote:He's already said she doesn't work so unless she has $100,000 in savings the whole thing is academical.....Casa wrote:Yes as per my post but this may take several months unless you apply for FLR(M) (a spouse visa...you call a marriage visa) in person for a premium fee of an additional £400 making it over £1,000 (in addition to the Fiance visa fee). Do you and your girlfriend have the funds for these visas?
I stand by my earlier recommendation. I, and others, have explained these visa types already in this thread. I'm fairly certain we understand your situation perfectly, even if we don't all agree on a few points. You can reread the posts. You've already found the online descriptions from the UK government itself.michaelionheart wrote:Ok.. i'm just a little confused here guys so BARE with me please lol.. i'm getting like multiple answers so let me just ask this.. what are the pros and cons of getting a Fiance visa AND a Marriage Visitor visa.. i'm trying to see which one is BEST for me
At the moment your ONLY option if you want to marry is the Marriage Visit Visa, marry, return home to US and plan.........michaelionheart wrote:Ok.. i'm just a little confused here guys so BARE with me please lol.. i'm getting like multiple answers so let me just ask this.. what are the pros and cons of getting a Fiance visa AND a Marriage Visitor visa.. i'm trying to see which one is BEST for me
Best for us I think you mean!!michaelionheart wrote:Ok.. i'm just a little confused here guys so BARE with me please lol.. i'm getting like multiple answers so let me just ask this.. what are the pros and cons of getting a Fiance visa AND a Marriage Visitor visa.. i'm trying to see which one is BEST for me
And even here, I would take some time and build up my resources a bit. For them to issue you this visa, they are going to expect clear and obvious intention that either you will later come back and immigrate to the UK, or that she will permanently immigrate the U.S. Or they expect clear evidence why neither can't and won't happen soon. Not being able to afford those subsequent immigration costs (either way) will kill your chances of getting this initial visa. They aren't issuing this visa trivially. It would be different if you were both non-residents, but since she is resident here, something has got to be shown in this regard.Wanderer wrote:At the moment your ONLY option if you want to marry is the Marriage Visit Visa, marry, return home to US and plan.........michaelionheart wrote:Ok.. i'm just a little confused here guys so BARE with me please lol.. i'm getting like multiple answers so let me just ask this.. what are the pros and cons of getting a Fiance visa AND a Marriage Visitor visa.. i'm trying to see which one is BEST for me
And not to put a damper on it, you may hate each other on sight, or there be no physical chemistry - believe me it happens a lot, I've been in involved in the online dating game in the past for my sins.....PaperPusher wrote:Best for us I think you mean!!michaelionheart wrote:Ok.. i'm just a little confused here guys so BARE with me please lol.. i'm getting like multiple answers so let me just ask this.. what are the pros and cons of getting a Fiance visa AND a Marriage Visitor visa.. i'm trying to see which one is BEST for me
Seriously, just visit each other, even just once, enjoy your relationship without having to worry about what visa to apply for next.
You may hate the UK! She may love the US!
Yeah i guess i can understand that for SOME couples but to be fair.. me and Kirsty (my GIRLFRIEND-future wife) have been talking CONSTANTLY over skype for 3 years now (cam and mic) it may not sound a lot but 3 years is 3 years.. you don't know the stuff we've been through.. but we BOTH feel exactly the same for each other.. even though we have NEVER met before irl.. i know she's the love of my life, and i know i want to spend the rest of my life with her.Wanderer wrote:And not to put a damper on it, you may hate each other on sight, or there be no physical chemistry - believe me it happens a lot, I've been in involved in the online dating game in the past for my sins.....PaperPusher wrote:Best for us I think you mean!!michaelionheart wrote:Ok.. i'm just a little confused here guys so BARE with me please lol.. i'm getting like multiple answers so let me just ask this.. what are the pros and cons of getting a Fiance visa AND a Marriage Visitor visa.. i'm trying to see which one is BEST for me
Seriously, just visit each other, even just once, enjoy your relationship without having to worry about what visa to apply for next.
You may hate the UK! She may love the US!
If this is true, and you are truly fated to be together, then there is nothing that will stop you from being together if you both put the effort into it. Not the U.S. government, not the UK government, not anybody. It won't be easy, but you will find a way.michaelionheart wrote:Yeah i guess i can understand that for SOME couples but to be fair.. me and Kirsty (my GIRLFRIEND-future wife) have been talking CONSTANTLY over skype for 3 years now (cam and mic) it may not sound a lot but 3 years is 3 years.. you don't know the stuff we've been through.. but we BOTH feel exactly the same for each other.. even though we have NEVER met before irl.. i know she's the love of my life, and i know i want to spend the rest of my life with her.
The girlfriend and i just wanted to say thanks and we'll take your specific recommendation into account.ouflak1 wrote:If this true, and you are truly fated to be together, then there is nothing that will stop you from being together if you both put the effort into it. Not the U.S. government, not the UK government, not anybody. It won't be easy, but you will find a way.michaelionheart wrote:Yeah i guess i can understand that for SOME couples but to be fair.. me and Kirsty (my GIRLFRIEND-future wife) have been talking CONSTANTLY over skype for 3 years now (cam and mic) it may not sound a lot but 3 years is 3 years.. you don't know the stuff we've been through.. but we BOTH feel exactly the same for each other.. even though we have NEVER met before irl.. i know she's the love of my life, and i know i want to spend the rest of my life with her.
I reiterate my earlier recommendation.
I don't see what the purpose of doing that would be though.. wouldn't i just be better off applying for the Marriage Visitor visa?bob-russell wrote:There is one other possibility but it will not allow you to work. You are able to visit the UK (not work) on a visit visa (or visa waiver) and if you then decide you wish to marry during the visit this is now acceptable. It will not change the fact that you are still on a visit visa and would not be able to settle without returning home and jumping through the hoops described very accurately in the many posts above.
if the Immigration Officer suspects the main purpose of your visit is to get married then you are potentially in trouble and facing a near immediate trip home. If you decide once here that you hit it off there is nothing to stop you marrying as long as the Registrar is satisfied it is a genuine marriage. It used to be a requirement that you obtained a Certificate of Approval from the Home Office before marriage. This is not the case now.
Do not play games with the UK immigration process, there are few or no loopholes and falling foul of the rules will cost you a lot of money and make future dealings with the UKVI a potential minefield.
Working on a visit visa will get your employer a £10K fine and you would be leaving the UK faster than Concorde did!
There has been some extremely reliable advice given here. Ignore it at your peril!
Cheaper I think, visit (waivered) visa is free, and isn't the Marriage Visit Visa £585?michaelionheart wrote:I don't see what the purpose of doing that would be though.. wouldn't i just be better off applying for the Marriage Visitor visa?bob-russell wrote:There is one other possibility but it will not allow you to work. You are able to visit the UK (not work) on a visit visa (or visa waiver) and if you then decide you wish to marry during the visit this is now acceptable. It will not change the fact that you are still on a visit visa and would not be able to settle without returning home and jumping through the hoops described very accurately in the many posts above.
if the Immigration Officer suspects the main purpose of your visit is to get married then you are potentially in trouble and facing a near immediate trip home. If you decide once here that you hit it off there is nothing to stop you marrying as long as the Registrar is satisfied it is a genuine marriage. It used to be a requirement that you obtained a Certificate of Approval from the Home Office before marriage. This is not the case now.
Do not play games with the UK immigration process, there are few or no loopholes and falling foul of the rules will cost you a lot of money and make future dealings with the UKVI a potential minefield.
Working on a visit visa will get your employer a £10K fine and you would be leaving the UK faster than Concorde did!
There has been some extremely reliable advice given here. Ignore it at your peril!
Dunno! Thought I read it back thread. I'd check back but I fear I might lose the will to live lol!!michaelionheart wrote:Hmm.. where are you getting £585 from? on the site it says you can apply for £83.
https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa
