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There is a contradiction here about the entry visa.D-Visa is different from a Visitor Visa.Please specify what is written on the initial entry visa.Erik84 wrote:After 6 months waiting for d-visa and 7 month waiting for eu1, today my wife received a negative response to her eu residency application.
It's the usual "applicants must submit lawful residence in another EU Member State prior to arrival"
They also write "According to our records, you were originally granted permission to remian in the State on visitors conditions until 31 January, 2007. It is open to you to return to the GNIB, 13/14 Burgh Quay, Dublin 2 to enquire about renewing same."
Do any of you know what they are likely to say at GNIB. My feeling is that there arent going to be very helpful.
The visa says:brownbonno wrote:
There is a contradiction here about the entry visa.D-Visa is different from a Visitor Visa.Please specify what is written on the initial entry visa.
For record purposes Visitor visa are not extendable.
I suggest you make an appeal to the refusal decision.Because in a recent EU petition committee communication,there is a plan to bring Ireland to ECJ.Seee below....
In order to comply with provisions of Directive 2004/38/EC, Ireland brought into force the European Communities (Free Movement of Persons) Regulations 2006. Regulation 3(2) of the 2006 Regulations excludes from its personal scope all family members of a Union citizen (including same-gender partners) who were not lawfully resident in another Member State before seeking to enter Ireland to reside there with the Union citizen.
The Commission believes that such an interpretation of Community law on the right of Union citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the European Union, based on the judgment of the European Court of Justice in case Akrich , cannot be applied to all family members seeking family reunification with a Union citizen who has exercised his or her right to move and reside freely.
Such interpretation is supported by recent judgment of the Court in case Jia where the Court ruled that Community law does not require Member States to make the grant of a residence permit to nationals of a non-Member State, who are members of the family of a Union citizen who has exercised his or her right of free movement, subject to the condition that those family members have previously been residing lawfully in another Member State.
The Commission received recently a number of complaints concerning refusal by the Irish authorities of residence card applications of third country family members of Union citizens residing in Ireland on the grounds that the family members have not resided in a Member State before coming to Ireland. A case is pending before the Irish High Court on legality of Regulation 3(2) of the 2006 Regulations. The judgment is scheduled for 15 June 2007.
The Commission envisages addressing the compliance of Regulation 3(2) with Community law within the overall examination of compliance of the Irish legislation with Directive 2004/38/EC, as interpreted by the Court in case Jia. The examination is expected to be completed shortly.
What I have noticed is that they seem to be purposely dragging it out for the whole 6 months before making a decision. I find that unconscionable. I don't have any idea, I just hope it works out for youBigAppleWoodenShoe wrote:Ok, I just called DOJ this morning, and the rep told me that my decision should be made this week (I applied Jan. 2007). She said I should receive my letter by the end of the week or the beginning of next week at the latest. What do you think the odds are that this will actually happen??? I am 99.99% sure that I am NOT going to get a residence card....but a Stamp 4 would be nice....it's a start. What is the difference between people who get a Stamp 4 and people who don't???
When I went in to the GNIB with my "residency-denied but Stamp 4 for 2 years granted" letter, it was clear the guy behind the window had never seen such a thing and had no idea what to do with it. And this was with a letter that said specifically I have been given permission to have a Stamp 4, valid for working and living in the ROI. If you go in with a letter that is as vague as yours, I just don't know what they'd do. I wouldn't be hopeful. But go in and ask, and then ask for a supervisor if the person doesn't seem to know what they're doing, or won't give you a renewal.They also write "According to our records, you were originally granted permission to remian in the State on visitors conditions until 31 January, 2007. It is open to you to return to the GNIB, 13/14 Burgh Quay, Dublin 2 to enquire about renewing same."
Do any of you know what they are likely to say at GNIB. My feeling is that there arent going to be very helpful.
I didn't have to pay for my 2-year Stamp 4. You're not supposed to have any fees for EU-related stuff. My husband and I were discussing strategies for raising a stink if they tried to charge us, but they didn't.At GNIB, I didn't have to pay anything to get this EUFam4, I'm not sure, but maybe Stamp4 you have to pay registration fee €100. Also my EUFam4 is for 5 years.
maybe the answer can be found here?egg wrote:Hi Platinum,
yes, in my case I got 5 years residency. and sorry for wrong info, stamp4 didn't need to pay fee, I wasn't sure.
I still don't know the difference between EUFam4 (mine) and Stamp4.
Fantastic!Erik84 wrote:An additional problem/opportunity in my case is that my wife and I are going to Sweden in a couple of days. I'm Swedish and my wife obtained a residency permit to Sweden after applying for EU1 to Ireland. The visit to Sweden is however only intended to be temporary - we do want to live in Ireland, and I have a good job here I wouldnt want to leave.
What nationality are you? Have you and your wife together visited any other EU countries since April 2006? In which case you have already been resident in another member state.santiago1974 wrote:Thanxs for the information, I just received a letter from the DOJ and it said that I need to prove that I resided in other state so a resident card cannot be granted... Gosh!!! 8 months without being able to work for this??? My wife and I are going to appeal, I will stop by the MRCI to see what I have to do. Do you know what are the procedures for appealing? is it worth to appeal? need advice in this matter. My wife is already getting in touch with SOLVIT so thank you very much for the information.