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Yes he did send the Toeic Certificateka55555 wrote:If he had just appeared in the toeic and did not submit it then it would be different case.
my first question is that did he send them certificate with his visa application
Thank you very much for your reply,lexmark legal wrote:I have received witness statements of Home Office officials in relation to the similar matter.
What ETS has done:
They have run the voice identification software where they have taken all the voice files from 2011(this is when they received the tender from Home Office) and have checked them against each other.
And where the system has flagged the voices identical to other voice, they have cancelled the scores of the students by saying that proxies were used to pass the exams.
These matters are still in court and we await for the response.
If you also have been refused by the Home Office, please feel free to contact me, and I would be able to help.
Atif Jamal
Lexmark Legal Associates
0208 090 2488
Did you get the same letter stating leave the country.Raj86guy wrote:Hello atif..could u please help me. I extended my visa last year with TOEIC and its expiring now this October. I didn't receive the letter yet. Will they send me the letter or not because I m left with 2 months on my visa now?
In the end of this month I am planning to apply as my husbands dependent, my husband is on work permit. M I be able to apply as a dependent then. Or will the create problem ?
Yes he is got the visa one and half year ago and he still got valid visa and now home office send him letter and curtailed his visa without appeal right.londonboi12 wrote:hi hassan5805
Dont understand ur Question..........
Did you mean that visa is already been issued and now they are sending him letter after giving visa to go back home country ?
Yes whoever got the visa using toeic will be in trouble doesnt matter how much his visa left or not,.sam82 wrote:WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO GOT THE VISA BASED ON TOEIC A YEAR AGO ARE THEY GETTING THE LETTER AS WELL FROM HOME OFFICE OR PEOPLE WHO APPLIED RECENTLY GETTING THE REFUSAL LETTER
In the letter they have stated that speaking test have been given by the anomaly..BlackBirdSSG wrote:It's simple. You can only get away with it if you have given it yourself. UKVI are only running voice sampling analysis on Speaking Module. If you take them to court, they will play your voice which TOEIC will give them
'Anomaly' issue is raise when there is report of any suspicion. If you want to know what kind of anomaly, you can either talk to ETS or take HO to court and then ask HO to produce evidence.hassan5805 wrote:In the letter they have stated that speaking test have been given by the anomaly..BlackBirdSSG wrote:It's simple. You can only get away with it if you have given it yourself. UKVI are only running voice sampling analysis on Speaking Module. If you take them to court, they will play your voice which TOEIC will give them
What kind of anomaly they talking about we dont know.
Other thing is my cousin saying college people were corrupt and they were not allowing any of us take part in test.
Well its college fault not students.
Home office need to take decision wisely instead ruining someone career.
Regards
Thank you very much for your reply,BlackBirdSSG wrote:'Anomaly' issue is raise when there is report of any suspicion. If you want to know what kind of anomaly, you can either talk to ETS or take HO to court and then ask HO to produce evidence.hassan5805 wrote:In the letter they have stated that speaking test have been given by the anomaly..BlackBirdSSG wrote:It's simple. You can only get away with it if you have given it yourself. UKVI are only running voice sampling analysis on Speaking Module. If you take them to court, they will play your voice which TOEIC will give them
What kind of anomaly they talking about we dont know.
Other thing is my cousin saying college people were corrupt and they were not allowing any of us take part in test.
Well its college fault not students.
Home office need to take decision wisely instead ruining someone career.
Regards
Regarding your second issue, your argument seem to be invalid because you should have reported that incident the moment you witnessed it. Have you reported it anywhere? Were you coerced into doing this?
So, if you haven't/weren't, then you sure as hell were using it for visa extension purposes only. It would be difficult to prove your innocence in court .... or your friend's.
Well they send him letter and stated he got to attend one of the detention centre.. It means if he goes there they will captured him and deport and it doesnt matter if he launch the JR.. I cant believe pending JR and they still going to deport him.. This is against the justice he should be given chance to prove himself innocent.Frontier Mole wrote:No matter what approach you take by your cousins admission he did not take the test. If you go to court they will play the digital recording of the test and it will not be your cousins voice. That is an insurmountable problem. Your cousin knowingly submitted a test result that was falsely obtained and therefore has used deception to gain or attempt to gain his visa.
Regardless of what SELT results he can put forward now it will not overcome the use of deception
Some have already tried this defence and it has been rejected out of hand. There are JR's pending and once one gets to a hearing if that ever happens then there will be reliable precedent for all the similar claims. Ido not see the courts supporting any such cases as the evidence is so strong against those who have been identified.
A JR will not prevent the removal of your cousin if he is arrested by UKVI due to the use of deception.
Other option is if he move out his home and put Asylum..Frontier Mole wrote:No matter what approach you take by your cousins admission he did not take the test. If you go to court they will play the digital recording of the test and it will not be your cousins voice. That is an insurmountable problem. Your cousin knowingly submitted a test result that was falsely obtained and therefore has used deception to gain or attempt to gain his visa.
Regardless of what SELT results he can put forward now it will not overcome the use of deception
Some have already tried this defence and it has been rejected out of hand. There are JR's pending and once one gets to a hearing if that ever happens then there will be reliable precedent for all the similar claims. Ido not see the courts supporting any such cases as the evidence is so strong against those who have been identified.
A JR will not prevent the removal of your cousin if he is arrested by UKVI due to the use of deception.