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Your point being? Every government agencies in the world over indulges in a bit of complicated administrative procedure, it doesn't negate the fact that the judiciary in this country is completely independent of the government, we should be proud of that. What OP is experiencing and the scenario you described are not unexpected, sometimes, things aren't laid on a plate, you fight for it.Starquality wrote:dalebutt wrote:You need to calm really down, relax, this isn't worth loosing a single hair for, it is called bureaucratic, it happens everywhere, the UK justice system is independent of the government, it is a separate entity"
Sorry, I am only a lurker, but IMO, in certain situations, it could be a ploy to delay , frustrate and sabotage applicants, than complex red tape. In my home country for example, I was told by a foreign embassy employer, that staff " pulled important document" then refused applicants for not submitting those documents. On this very board, I have read that some people were told they never submitted marriage certificates, when they claim they did.
To the OP, I am not experienced in dealing with your issues, hopefully the above poster and other experienced members can help.. don't
God bless
dalebutt wrote:Your point being? Every government agencies in the world over indulges in a bit of complicated administrative procedure, it doesn't negate the fact that the judiciary in this country is completely independent of the government, we should be proud of that. What OP is experiencing and the scenario you described are not unexpected, sometimes, things aren't laid on a plate, you fight for it.Starquality wrote:dalebutt wrote:You need to calm really down, relax, this isn't worth loosing a single hair for, it is called bureaucratic, it happens everywhere, the UK justice system is independent of the government, it is a separate entity"
Sorry, I am only a lurker, but IMO, in certain situations, it could be a ploy to delay , frustrate and sabotage applicants, than complex red tape. In my home country for example, I was told by a foreign embassy employer, that staff " pulled important document" then refused applicants for not submitting those documents. On this very board, I have read that some people were told they never submitted marriage certificates, when they claim they did.
To the OP, I am not experienced in dealing with your issues, hopefully the above poster and other experienced members can help.. don't
God bless
Yes, that's why we are totally anxious to move to Germany. We really don't wanna live here anymore. It was our dream before step here. Now we are really disappointed.rosebead wrote:Sorry about your troubles. I agree with you that these kinds of delays by these creaky government departments are unacceptable and are obstructive of your free movement rights. It is unbelievable the amount of incompetence and lack of proper staff training. Even if the bureaucracy across the world is the the same, although I suspect countries like Germany and Japan are maybe more efficient, it's still appalling whether it's here or there.
What a crude statement to make? as much as you are entitled to your opinion, that statement is rather foolish, every reply on the thread has addressed the issues the OP raised, it has never drifted west or south has you erroneously perceived, probably due to your lack of understanding.UKBA HUNTER wrote:i think this thread is sailing from north to west, from south to east with no meaningful reply. Remember, UK is so far is the easiest and better country in Europe to live and settle if intelligent planning has been formulated backed by genuine/factual grounds/intentions because at the moment the authorities is looking everyone suspiciously because there are a lot of loopholes still left in European route. However, still the genuine couples always win but always initial challenges occurs which everyone in regardless of the country have to face inevitably. Remember always the gardens looks green from far but once go near to it then one can understand what is it actually?
I will appreciate your bravery in replying but must smile on your innocence that this section of forum is designed for immigration related queries especially the European ones although in several other threads unrelated issues can be raised and discussed. I do not think any other language than English has been used above which cannot be able to understand. If you are boring and want to spend time in writing then keep on but i do not have right now to reply you post by post. Best of luck regardless of the reply you write after reading this postdalebutt wrote:What a crude statement to make? as much as you are entitled to your opinion, that statement is rather foolish, every reply on the thread has addressed the issues the OP raised, it has never drifted west or south has you erroneously perceived, probably due to your lack of understanding.UKBA HUNTER wrote:i think this thread is sailing from north to west, from south to east with no meaningful reply. Remember, UK is so far is the easiest and better country in Europe to live and settle if intelligent planning has been formulated backed by genuine/factual grounds/intentions because at the moment the authorities is looking everyone suspiciously because there are a lot of loopholes still left in European route. However, still the genuine couples always win but always initial challenges occurs which everyone in regardless of the country have to face inevitably. Remember always the gardens looks green from far but once go near to it then one can understand what is it actually?
It is no bravery, it is a balanced response to a rather foolish assertion from yourself, OP posted on the challenges he has faced obtaining a confirmation of his rights, and you think it isn't the right section of the forum to post that? every response that followed had tried to address the issues the OP raised, your post about "a Garden that looks Green from far", supposedly made more sense than the rest of the contributions? Your perceived understanding of English language is erroneous.UKBA HUNTER wrote:I will appreciate your bravery in replying but must smile on your innocence that this section of forum is designed for immigration related queries especially the European ones although in several other threads unrelated issues can be raised and discussed. I do not think any other language than English has been used above which cannot be able to understand. If you are boring and want to spend time in writing then keep on but i do not have right now to reply you post by post. Best of luck regardless of the reply you write after reading this postdalebutt wrote:What a crude statement to make? as much as you are entitled to your opinion, that statement is rather foolish, every reply on the thread has addressed the issues the OP raised, it has never drifted west or south has you erroneously perceived, probably due to your lack of understanding.UKBA HUNTER wrote:i think this thread is sailing from north to west, from south to east with no meaningful reply. Remember, UK is so far is the easiest and better country in Europe to live and settle if intelligent planning has been formulated backed by genuine/factual grounds/intentions because at the moment the authorities is looking everyone suspiciously because there are a lot of loopholes still left in European route. However, still the genuine couples always win but always initial challenges occurs which everyone in regardless of the country have to face inevitably. Remember always the gardens looks green from far but once go near to it then one can understand what is it actually?
Nope...I don't need to learn German I'm a IT professional. We can be hired faster in any country without the need for the language. In fact if you are deaf and dumb and not capable to speak any single world in any language it's okay....since you can code in Java, C++, Objective C. a bit (really little bit) of German will be necessary for the residence title. And to be very honest I love the German language and will be a pleasure learn it - So that's a requirement that I will have a great pleasure to accomplish. In fact in my opinion UK supposed to adopt such thing because there is people living here for years and not capable to speak english. It's not respectful with the country.dalebutt wrote:Your ignorance is astonishing, you will need a loads of extra patience, you will quickly need to learn German, because you are very much likely to be asked by a disgruntled Auslanderbehorde official, something along the line of " War machst du hier? You will need to answer that coherently. Good luck for the future.
Well, I don't think my family will have issues due the appearence. We are really white, I've green eyes, my wife is a Hungarian Standard as well. Buuut...I don't like the idea to see people being stopped according with the appearance. It's disgusting. However I never hear before ppl telling it. And there is some important thing: Live in Berlin is different of living in any other city. It's like London: Rarely you will find a real British guy.yoshi_jp wrote:My brother in law drives his Polish-registered lorry regularly between Poland and the UK, and he is stopped on the motorway by cops EVERY D#MN TIME (for no obvious reason at all) because of the clear PL country designation on the number plates.
I've had a fair share of ups and downs here, but I've never had such medieval absurdity anywhere in the UK.
But, for heaven's sake, please don't slag off this country which I rather like. Dave might be a bit slimy and out of touch, but most other European "leaders" aren't much better or worse.
In my opinion..I could be wrong..but this thread is about immigration anyway. We are talking about how difficulty is to get a EEA2 RC, a NIN for EEA FM and if the government is creating barriers, what's people can do to strike back. I really hope that some day a family chief like me can be aided with the hints of the experts of this board. Anyway it's my fault expose more details then necessary.UKBA HUNTER wrote:I will appreciate your bravery in replying but must smile on your innocence that this section of forum is designed for immigration related queries especially the European ones although in several other threads unrelated issues can be raised and discussed. I do not think any other language than English has been used above which cannot be able to understand. If you are boring and want to spend time in writing then keep on but i do not have right now to reply you post by post. Best of luck regardless of the reply you write after reading this postdalebutt wrote:What a crude statement to make? as much as you are entitled to your opinion, that statement is rather foolish, every reply on the thread has addressed the issues the OP raised, it has never drifted west or south has you erroneously perceived, probably due to your lack of understanding.UKBA HUNTER wrote:i think this thread is sailing from north to west, from south to east with no meaningful reply. Remember, UK is so far is the easiest and better country in Europe to live and settle if intelligent planning has been formulated backed by genuine/factual grounds/intentions because at the moment the authorities is looking everyone suspiciously because there are a lot of loopholes still left in European route. However, still the genuine couples always win but always initial challenges occurs which everyone in regardless of the country have to face inevitably. Remember always the gardens looks green from far but once go near to it then one can understand what is it actually?
As an EU citizen (or as the family of an EU citizen) you do not need to speak any Germany, nor do you need a "residence title".JulianaV wrote:Nope...I don't need to learn German I'm a IT professional. We can be hired faster in any country without the need for the language. In fact if you are deaf and dumb and not capable to speak any single world in any language it's okay....since you can code in Java, C++, Objective C. a bit (really little bit) of German will be necessary for the residence title.dalebutt wrote:Your ignorance is astonishing, you will need a loads of extra patience, you will quickly need to learn German, because you are very much likely to be asked by a disgruntled Auslanderbehorde official, something along the line of " War machst du hier? You will need to answer that coherently. Good luck for the future.
JulianaV wrote:dalebutt wrote:Your ignorance is astonishing, you will need a loads of extra patience, you will quickly need to learn German, because you are very much likely to be asked by a disgruntled Auslanderbehorde official, something along the line of " War machst du hier? You will need to answer that coherently. Good luck for the future.
JulianaV wrote:Nope...I don't need to learn German I'm a IT professional. We can be hired faster in any country without the need for the language. In fact if you are deaf and dumb and not capable to speak any single world in any language it's okay....since you can code in Java, C++, Objective C. a bit (really little bit) of German will be necessary for the residence title. And to be very honest I love the German language and will be a pleasure learn it - So that's a requirement that I will have a great pleasure to accomplish. In fact in my opinion UK supposed to adopt such thing because there is people living here for years and not capable to speak english. It's not respectful with the country.