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Wow that is really obvious, maybe you can report at least and see if IND is interested.stedman wrote:Oh dear. No there's nothing anyone can do, unfortunately.
As opposed to people who claim benefits, whose wives don't fancy earning a living, and expect to be able to lie their way through immigration control?badmaash wrote:
like most who have come through the asylum route are not genuine it was just a easy way out i know cases where those on asylum are even renting their houses to other and making income
Come on, your own English is absolutely appalling! Look at that sentence for a start, you can't spell "Pole" or "Polish", it should be "gets a permit" not "get a permit", it should be "can't" not "cant" and there isn't a single capital letter or full stop in sight. Don't be so rude about other people's English (people who work for a living, for example) when your own is nothing to be proud of.badmaash wrote: where there comes a poll or a bulgarian and he get a permit for free
i mean is this fair
he cant even speak english well
badmaash wrote:i agree the rules need to be changed especially for these guys from certain countries who are just in the uk for personal benefit
like most who have come through the asylum route are not genuine it was just a easy way out i know cases where those on asylum are even renting their houses to other and making income
this happens in london where council tenents like kurds rent out their flats to wealthy gulf arabs and make a packet in the summer and we all know how much cash the gulf arabs come with
as for the indians then i see them as good migrants they contribute to society in ways of business and also are in good professions
they are a successful migrant comunnity
and with britain being a host country its laws should be respected as long it does not contradict gods laws
the uk at the moment in regards to social problems is bad
marriage is on the decline
and many girls especially from the working class estates are getting in with these albanians and it seems clear they are after visa
like me im a genuine person i did not marry to play im born in britain lived all my life there went school there
and i get probs bringing my wife over
i have to pay all sorts of fees
where there comes a poll or a bulgarian and he get a permit for free
i mean is this fair
he cant even speak english well
i mean being a citizen you should be rewarded
for it
i prefered the uk in the eighties and early nineties it was good
the only migrants then were mainlt the indian, pakistani , bangladeshi
i dont have a problem with them
except bangladesh need to do more
in ters of educating
i can understand how you feel
but remember the evil ones are never safe from gods plans
and he is ever watching
sharonteresa, very sorry to hear what has happened to your daughter, her daughter and you. I guess I really have nothing to add beyond that, except to say that I think that jimquk's comments are very good. Ultimately you must be there for your daughter (rather than seeking your own vengeance - not saying of course that you are doing that or would do that!). You also need to consider practical issues: Do you want a long, protracted and possibly unpleasant legal or quasi-legal battle? Would it be to your grand-daughter's benefit to have her father in Albania rather than in the UK(an open question, no doubt)? And so on.jimquk wrote:As for the problem at hand, this chap is clearly a low-life. It may be that the Home Office would look into his case a bit more deeply as it seems clear that his intention was basically fraudulent. It might be a bit different if he had left her after a few more months, but the next day..... they may well take that as too much of a co-incidence. I think that ILR can be revoked if it was obtained fraudulently.
Still, although I sympathise with you and your daughter's feelings, you need to think whether it is worth trying, and maybe failing, to get him out of the country. First of all, you need to support your daughter in whatever she wants rather than just acting yourself. Secondly, for better or worse he is the father of your granddaughter, scumbag though he may be; in the future that little girl may need to make a relationship with him - I know that may seem impossible right now, and the last thing you'ld want, but still when she's a bit older she may need to find out for herself. Would you want to have to send her to Albania to visit him? Surely not.
There's also the issue of child support. It may be difficult to get him to cough up while he's here, but once you've sent him to Albania.....
I'm really sorry about your situation. I just hope that in time he will realise that actually his little girl means more to him than a piece of paper. He may have got his ILR, he may be laughing with his friends, but he is far from love and happiness.
Remind me to get my kids educated outside of the UK.as i did go to school in the uk from age 4 -age 16
In general, I agree with your sentiment, and think most people in this situation should move on. However, this one is a bit too glaring. Overall, the only thing I suggest the OP to do is to write a letter to IND and inform them of the situation. If IND wants to pursue it, grand. Otherwise from an immigration point of view, it is definitely time to move on.Dawie wrote:As much as I sympathise with the original poster, this is an issue for a family therapist, not an immigration lawyer.
The OP has absolutely no chance of getting the BIA involved. There is no law against leaving your wife after obtaining indefinite leave to remain and the OP would be very very hard pressed indeed to prove that the original marriage was a scam and that the spouse visa and subsequent indefinite leave to remain were obtained by deception, especially as there is a child involved.
To be perfectly frank I am quite tired of reading of posts here from vindictive ex-spouses and jilted lovers trying to use the immigration system to extract revenge on their wayward foreign lovers and spouses.
Agree with Syh. But for us....few of us would know what it's like until it happens to us - I never like to judge and act like people are just whinging - it's bad enough when a marriage breaks down (and, say, a person walks out for someone else/a "better life"), but it's even worse when, after having a child with said person, they walk out on you after getting that piece of paper that they wanted from you.SYH wrote:In general, I agree with your sentiment, and think most people in this situation should move on. However, this one is a bit too glaring. Overall, the only thing I suggest the OP to do is to write a letter to IND and inform them of the situation. If IND wants to pursue it, grand. Otherwise from an immigration point of view, it is definitely time to move on.Dawie wrote:As much as I sympathise with the original poster, this is an issue for a family therapist, not an immigration lawyer.
The OP has absolutely no chance of getting the BIA involved. There is no law against leaving your wife after obtaining indefinite leave to remain and the OP would be very very hard pressed indeed to prove that the original marriage was a scam and that the spouse visa and subsequent indefinite leave to remain were obtained by deception, especially as there is a child involved.
To be perfectly frank I am quite tired of reading of posts here from vindictive ex-spouses and jilted lovers trying to use the immigration system to extract revenge on their wayward foreign lovers and spouses.
that's the right strategy.SYH wrote:In general, I agree with your sentiment, and think most people in this situation should move on. However, this one is a bit too glaring. Overall, the only thing I suggest the OP to do is to write a letter to IND and inform them of the situation. If IND wants to pursue it, grand. Otherwise from an immigration point of view, it is definitely time to move on.Dawie wrote:As much as I sympathise with the original poster, this is an issue for a family therapist, not an immigration lawyer.
The OP has absolutely no chance of getting the BIA involved. There is no law against leaving your wife after obtaining indefinite leave to remain and the OP would be very very hard pressed indeed to prove that the original marriage was a scam and that the spouse visa and subsequent indefinite leave to remain were obtained by deception, especially as there is a child involved.
To be perfectly frank I am quite tired of reading of posts here from vindictive ex-spouses and jilted lovers trying to use the immigration system to extract revenge on their wayward foreign lovers and spouses.
Ok, as those points were apparently directed at me, rather than Jim:badmaash wrote:jim the husband is the breadwinner so please dont come down harsh on me
and you say we should not discriminate so why discriminate a women for being a housewfie
if a women wants to be a housewife and her husband is providing is this something detestable