MY Wife left me help plz

[nigel_bytes]

Help please, i met my partner via internet almost 5 years ago, shes from siberia. i paid for all flights on three occasions and almost 3 years ago we married using her fiance visa,
im english by the way.
We both lived together and then after 2 years my wife applied for lts (leave to stay) this was granted.
last month my wife left me.
so we have been married almost 3 years,
i am convinced now she married me for a visa only
After doing some homework it looks like my wife applied for her visa in moscow using falseified documents.
I love my wife very much and im in a mess now.
Someone help me plz i really dont know what to do

[SYH]

I guess things was golden and then she just left.
Well what do you want to do. If you love her, it seems to me then you'd leave her alone and not interfer with her life as it take two to tangle
Of course if she didn't use you, then I guess you ask her to go to counseling with you but meanwhile I suggest you go to therapy

[sakura]

Help please, i met my partner via internet almost 5 years ago, shes from siberia. i paid for all flights on three occasions and almost 3 years ago we married using her fiance visa,
im english by the way.
We both lived together and then after 2 years my wife applied for lts (leave to stay) this was granted.
last month my wife left me.
so we have been married almost 3 years,
i am convinced now she married me for a visa only
After doing some homework it looks like my wife applied for her visa in moscow using falseified documents.
I love my wife very much and im in a mess now.
Someone help me plz i really dont know what to do

Ouch! That blows. Sorry, but the first thing you do is always get them to pay to come and visit you. Well anyway what's done is done.

I am confused - can you list ALL the visas she has had, and did she apply for ILR or something else? Did she leave you immediately after obtaining this visa? What falsified documents did she use?

It depends on what you want to do - if you want her back or if you just want to mess with her immigration status and get her sent back or something. Why would you ask your questions on an immigration site, rather than on a love and romance site?

[Wanderer]

Couple of randon thoughts...

If she's from Siberia she'd most likely have applied for her visa in Ekaterinburg.

I'm sure most visas from Russia are gained with falsified papers in someway, don't get me wrong, they're genuine in a way, no come back, but paid for! Everyone does it there believe me, it's not considered cheating at all.

Another thing is much time did u spend together face to face before marriage? Not relevent to ur questions but I'm interested to know, I like to think of myself as a bit of a guru in Anglo-Russian relationships...

[SYH]

Couple of randon thoughts...

If she's from Siberia she'd most likely have applied for her visa in Ekaterinburg.

I'm sure most visas from Russia are gained with falsified papers in someway, don't get me wrong, they're genuine in a way, no come back, but paid for! Everyone does it there believe me, it's not considered cheating at all.

Another thing is much time did u spend together face to face before marriage? Not relevent to ur questions but I'm interested to know, I like to think of myself as a bit of a guru in Anglo-Russian relationships...

HI Wanderer, welcome to Guru Status

[John]

How long from when the ILR was granted until she left?

Do appreciate that if she has been in the UK for 3 years then she is eligible to apply for Naturalisation. The separation does not alter that.

[jimquk]

You say you love her, so what does it matter if she came with a dodgy visa?

I think that if you wanted to get her ILR revoked, the Home Office would need some solid proof about the false documentation. A mere suspicion would not suffice.

In my opinion, you would do better just to move on rather than get into fighting and bitterness. What's to be gained?

Anyway, look after yourself.

[sakura]

You say you love her, so what does it matter if she came with a dodgy visa?

I think that if you wanted to get her ILR revoked, the Home Office would need some solid proof about the false documentation. A mere suspicion would not suffice.

In my opinion, you would do better just to move on rather than get into fighting and bitterness. What's to be gained?

Anyway, look after yourself.

Sometimes, when you've been used as a pawn just to obtain a red book...It isn't to move on, you know. I don't at all mean he should initiate a personal vendetta against her, but certainly, if all love's lost and she really did just use him for that, are there things he can do? What is the HO policy on these types of things (I wonder...)?

[nigel_bytes]

we met 5 years ago on the net.
i invited her for a holiday 1 month to start.
second visit six months.then we married
third visit permenant.
all visa applications were made in moscow.
she applied for a spouse visa on second application .
after 2 years she applied for leave to stay here,i believe that was done in durham.
1 week after she was given ils she told me she wanted a divorce.
i persuaded her not to do this.
we will be wed 3 years at the end of september.
she left me early august no explanation she just went.
now im £4K in debt thanks to her.
as for false documents all i can say is 3 years ago,
i was in recept of incapacity benefit and disabilty allowance. (figure that one out youselves if you know the rules)
so yes im really a bit pissed off.
what i am going to do i really dont know because im really devastated

[nigel_bytes]

Do appreciate that if she has been in the UK for 3 years then she is eligible to apply for Naturalisation. The separation does not alter that.


she has not been here 3 years, that will be in january 08

[Wanderer]

Do appreciate that if she has been in the UK for 3 years then she is eligible to apply for Naturalisation. The separation does not alter that.


she has not been here 3 years, that will be in january 08

I think her six months on the visitor visa will count towards BC.

She seems to know her stuff.

[John]

Nigel, as aggrieved as you are by your wife leaving you, I don't think there is any mileage in you trying to get her expelled from the UK. Had she actually left you one week after getting the ILR then it might have been different, but now, much later than that, I believe that there is no chance that the Home Office would revoke her ILR, or indeed decline to grant Naturalisation if she applied for it.

And as regards a Naturalisation application, even if applying on the basis of marriage to a British Citizen after just 3 years in the UK, she does not need your consent for that application to proceed, and you do not need to sign the form, or even ever see it.

In short Nigel, stop considering the immigration aspect of this.

[sakura]

Do appreciate that if she has been in the UK for 3 years then she is eligible to apply for Naturalisation. The separation does not alter that.


she has not been here 3 years, that will be in january 08

Since you didn't post timelines, no one knows excatly what you mean. All valid visas count towards naturalisation, including visit visas and anything else she had. So all she needs is to have been physically present in the UK for 3 years - whether or not she was married to you for 3 whole years is irrelevant. Did she take the Life in the UK test for ILR?

As for the debt.....do you mean she applied for them without your consent? Since that isn't an immigration issue, I suggest you find a way to sort that out asap before it gets any higher.

[Wanderer]

As for the debt.....do you mean she applied for them without your consent? Since that isn't an immigration issue, I suggest you find a way to sort that out asap before it gets any higher.

Another vote for my prospective partner visa with it's 2k bond. Too many guys are going into debt to marry people they hardly know. If you can't afford it - don't do it. International dating is an expensive game.

[Christophe]

Nigel - I agree with John: the immigration aspect of all this is secondary, really. It may well be that she will be eligible shortly to apply for naturalisation whatever the state or status of your marriage, and if this is the case there's little to be gained in pursuing the matter along those lines. Of course, you might be able to prove (even to the satisfaction of a court) that she obtained her visa fraudulently, but if so you've got to ask yourself whether it's worth spending the next X years of your life pursuing the matter in this way. Only you can decide that, of course.

Much more important, it seems to me, is to set about mending your own heart and putting your life back together again. Whether you want to see if that life can include her is, again, up to you, but in either case it is going to take some work on your part. (That said, taking what you say at face value, I'd say it seems unlikely that it will include her...)

What has happened is clearly devastating and a personal tragedy for you, but the thing now is to start from where you are and work towards resolving things in your own mind for your life ahead.

[Sorry - off the soap box now.]

All the best.

[RayJay]

we met 5 years ago on the net.
i invited her for a holiday 1 month to start.
second visit six months.then we married
third visit permenant.
all visa applications were made in moscow.
she applied for a spouse visa on second application .
after 2 years she applied for leave to stay here,i believe that was done in durham.
1 week after she was given ils she told me she wanted a divorce.
i persuaded her not to do this.
we will be wed 3 years at the end of september.
she left me early august no explanation she just went.
now im £4K in debt thanks to her.
as for false documents all i can say is 3 years ago,
i was in recept of incapacity benefit and disabilty allowance. (figure that one out youselves if you know the rules)
so yes im really a bit pissed off.
what i am going to do i really dont know because im really devastated

Hi
I agree with some of the replies given to you. what I gatherd from your post is that you are more worried on financial side( I might be totally worng).
Well,If this the case and you can prove that the money you spent on her was as loan to her then you might be able to make small court claim (once she is in UK obviously. I have seen couples claims and it usually produces very fruitful results.

Ray

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