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[fakira]

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[SYH]

what kind of visa?

[fakira]

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[SYH]

HUH?
If you have citizenship then why do you need a visa?

[fakira]

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[Administrator]

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Your explanation is difficult to understand:

- you are naturalized as a British citizen

- but a "decision" has not been made yet


. ???? . What "decision?"


If you have naturalized, and you were an Indian citizen, then you are not a dual citizen (as I understand it) because the moment you naturalized you stopped being an Indian citizen and became a Brit.

Your wording seems to indicate that you have a British passport but chose to use the Indian one instead ..?

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[Wanderer]

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Your explanation is difficult to understand:

- you are naturalized as a British citizen

- but a "decision" has not been made yet


. ???? . What "decision?"


If you have naturalized, and you were an Indian citizen, then you are not a dual citizen (as I understand it) because the moment you naturalized you stopped being an Indian citizen and became a Brit.

Your wording seems to indicate that you have a British passport but chose to use the Indian one instead ..?

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AIUI British Overseas Citizens have no automatic right to reside in the UK.

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Ah.

Thank you. The use of the term 'naturalized' has a past-tense rather final meaning to me.

The dual-nationality part still confuses me somewhat. If he is not naturalized in the 'catholic' sense of the term .. then he is still an Indian national pending the final decision.

Which begs the question ... he knew his visa expiration was coming up and allowed it to expire without taking other steps, based upon the specualtion that the naturalization would be finalized.

Do I get this properly yet ..?

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[Wanderer]

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Ah.

Thank you. The use of the term 'naturalized' has a past-tense rather final meaning to me.

The dual-nationality part still confuses me somewhat. If he is not naturalized in the 'catholic' sense of the term .. then he is still an Indian national pending the final decision.

Which begs the question ... he knew his visa expiration was coming up and allowed it to expire without taking other steps, based upon the specualtion that the naturalization would be finalized.

Do I get this properly yet ..?

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Aye that's how I see it too, but Nationality and the ex-Commonwealth is a mystery to me apart from bits picked up here...

The OP has BOC. Is BOC 'citizenship'? Well it says 'citizenship' but 'overseas' too so I'm not sure. The fact u need five year residency to gain ILR on a BOC passport suggests to me it's NOT true citizenship of other country there the OP is still entitled to an Indian Passport they there are still Indian.

I'm totally speculating!

[fakira]

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[Wanderer]

Have you resided in the UK for five years?

[fakira]

no

[Wanderer]

no

Does this apply to you, the more I read it the less I understand it! I'd never make is as a laywer:

The Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 granted British Overseas Citizens, British Subjects and British Protected Persons the right to register as British citizens if they have no other citizenship or nationality and have not after 4 July 2002 renounced, voluntarily relinquished or lost through action or inaction any citizenship or nationality.

[fakira]

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[avjones]

Could we have a bit more detail?

Where and when were you born?

How did you come to qualify for BOC?

When did you apply for BOC?

[Dawie]

my visa expires but the home office liverpool has not yet reached a decision yet
please advise course of action

By definition, if you require a time-limited visa to be in the UK then you cannot possibly be in a position to qualify for naturalisation as a British citizen as all naturalisation applicants are required to possess indefinite leave to remain.

[mym]

By definition, if you require a time-limited visa to be in the UK then you cannot possibly be in a position to qualify for naturalisation as a British citizen

Not so. People not physically in the UK are by definition (and this is explicitly stated in statute law) not subject to time-related immigration restrictions. Even if they need such a visa to enter the UK they can (if the relevant other requirements are met) apply for naturalisation outside the UK ('ppron method').

as all naturalisation applicants are required to possess indefinite leave to remain.

No, they are required to be free of time limitations - which is *not* the same as having ILR (though, as we know, ILR is the appropriate route to it for most people).

[sakura]

By definition, if you require a time-limited visa to be in the UK then you cannot possibly be in a position to qualify for naturalisation as a British citizen

Not so. People not physically in the UK are by definition (and this is explicitly stated in statute law) not subject to time-related immigration restrictions. Even if they need such a visa to enter the UK they can (if the relevant other requirements are met) apply for naturalisation outside the UK ('ppron method').

as all naturalisation applicants are required to possess indefinite leave to remain.

No, they are required to be free of time limitations - which is *not* the same as having ILR (though, as we know, ILR is the appropriate route to it for most people).

The OP is only here on a visit visa and has not, from what we can tell, even lived in the UK to qualify for ILR let alone naturalisation. So the Ppron method is not even relevant here, since the OP has only just arrived in the UK (for the first time, it seems).

I think that was Dawie's point.

[Wanderer]

What I don't understand is that the OP holds a BOC Passport, the very nature of holding that citizenship, cancels the OP's Indian citizenship, where does that leave the OP? Stateless?

[Dawie]

What I don't understand is that the OP holds a BOC Passport, the very nature of holding that citizenship, cancels the OP's Indian citizenship, where does that leave the OP? Stateless?

Wanderer, the OP has NOT at any stage said that she has Indian citizenship. Please read the posts carefully.

[sakura]

What I don't understand is that the OP holds a BOC Passport, the very nature of holding that citizenship, cancels the OP's Indian citizenship, where does that leave the OP? Stateless?

Wanderer, the OP has NOT at any stage said that she has Indian citizenship. Please read the posts carefully.

He wrote it in one of his earlier posts: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... ht=#110312

He is an Indian national from Goa, with BOC.

[Dawie]

Geez, more multiple postings on the same topic by idiots! Sorry Wanderer! In retrospect this Op doesn't really deserve our help.

[sakura]

Geez, more multiple postings on the same topic by idiots! Sorry Wanderer! In retrospect this Op doesn't really deserve our help.

HAHAHA! Yes, it REALLY doesn't help that people have to search all their posts to get the full low-down!

[mym]

By definition, if you require a time-limited visa to be in the UK then you cannot possibly be in a position to qualify for naturalisation as a British citizen

Not so. People not physically in the UK are by definition (and this is explicitly stated in statute law) not subject to time-related immigration restrictions. Even if they need such a visa to enter the UK they can (if the relevant other requirements are met) apply for naturalisation outside the UK ('ppron method').

as all naturalisation applicants are required to possess indefinite leave to remain.

No, they are required to be free of time limitations - which is *not* the same as having ILR (though, as we know, ILR is the appropriate route to it for most people).

The OP is only here on a visit visa and has not, from what we can tell, even lived in the UK to qualify for ILR let alone naturalisation. So the Ppron method is not even relevant here

Indeed. I was just correcting a mis-statement of fact.

[fakira]

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