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Actually that directive was put in place in april/may 2006... just nobody seemed to know about it.yankeegirl wrote:Hi Mike,
You should be ok. The requirement of previous residence in another EU state came into effect around Dec. 06 or Jan. 07. (If I remember correctly). Your wife should be ok. That said, the people who are already/could possibly be affected could probably use all the help they can get! I would urge anybody, not just those affected, to write a letter or do whatever they can to call attention to this.
I'm not sure if this means that your wife will be treated as a "visa required" citizen in this case. If so, she will have to leave the country to apply for a visa status change.Persons who are holders of a British Hong Kong Passport who have a right of abode in Great Britain do not require entry visas.
Persons who are holders of a British Hong Kong Passport who have a right of abode in Hong Kong only do not require entry visas but they are subject to full foreign national controls in respect of registration,permission to remain, work permits etc.
Thanks for the info the DOJ letter said 8-10 months. This is month 7 I think so fingers crossed we get some response soon.scrudu wrote:edk2007: I think your wife is then being treated as a "visa required" citizen. It doesn't matter where you married, it only matters where you are when you apply for residency status. If you are inside Ireland and apply for a change of status in Visa because of marriage, you slip into the black hole. Basically your application is shelved in case it is a "marriage of convenience". We were told such applications take 12-18 months to process. The alternative is to leave the country, and re-apply for permission to re-enter as the spouse of an Irish citizen. This process should take 6-8 weeks. Don't ask me where the logic is. We chose the 2nd option as it meant that within 2 months my husband was able to re-enter and get his Stamp 4, whereas the other option meant waiting around for the DoJ.
NOTE: It's not not an automatic process to be granted a Stamp 4, but the fact you have already resided together in Ireland would only make your application more solid.
@exploitedexploited wrote:I think it's high time all of us who have been shafted by this exploitative rule went on the offensive against the authorities! My wife has been sitting around almost a year only to be told to f@*k off after wasting all this time. It has been an extremely difficult and expensive time for us living in Dublin, which is a very difficult place to live if only one spouse is earning. The application just sat on some lazy idiots desk for months and we didn't even know what was going on. Every time I would try to get in touch, months later I'd get a response, saying that they needed this document or that. In the end after wasting all that time they rejected the application for same old reason that she hadn't resided in another EU country before coming here. So anyone who has gotten married outside the EU while living in Ireland would get shafted by this wholely illogical rule! They could have told us that the DAY they got the application instead of wasting a whole year of a persons life! I have a mind to get together with other couples who have had the same problem and sue these bastards for LOST WAGES and causing distress for almost a year! I think we have a genuine case and can hit them for millions if we get a decent lawyer. Thats the only way these rude time-wasting c*@^s will learn how to treat human beings as HUMAN BEINGS! Probably the LAZIEST AND MOST DISRESPECTFUL GOVERNMENT department of them all!
the DOJ not only dscriminate non irish eu national. if your certain irish national, you could be in trouble as well. i was down in GNIB few months ago. i was talking to this libyan guy in gnib. he has been living in ireland for 10 years. naturalized as irish long time ago. he went back to libya and married to a libyan gal. as most of the people know. libyan passport holder needs a visa to get on to the plane. he told me that the irish embassy in libya wont issue a visa for her wife to get enter ireland. so it is not only the non irish eu national having problem! he is very smart tho. he went to london and said to home office that her wife wanted to visit him in london. the british embassy issued her a visa to go from libya to london. they took the ferry across back to dublin. gnib gave her a stamp every year and couldnt say no to them once when they are in the country. but still this is pretty bad about the DOJ.mikeruurds wrote:I'll be joining in to picket the Dail no matter whether this affects us personally or not. It's crazy that the DOJ can discriminate against non-Irish EU nationals and their families. Surely any action of this kind should be taken against all EU nationals with non-EU spouses or no-one. If this action included Irish nationals with non-EU spouses then there would be more of an outcry.
I was on Newstalk this morning for about 3 minutes talking about this issue. It shouldn't be allowed. Dealing with fraudulent residency claims is one thing, but labeling all of us as being in marriages of convenience is discriminatory.
See you in the trenches.
Mike