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Dear Hidayat,hidayat wrote:Dear Friends,
This is planned by hsmpforum.com the same people whose webmaster is a fraud and have been making fake documentation like false payslips, filing tax returns for dummy companies etc of people to make money. The webmaster is using his henchmen to further get crowd and to further lure them for extensions and make money through the gathering so be careful.
These people are fraudsters and better inform the home office about them so that they have a thorough look at their fraudulent documents when they apply for extension.
What i heard is this is not the official hsmp forum they are misusing a non profit organisations name to gain credit and mileage.
Bye
Hid
dokwal wrote:what we r talkng about , faud , misleadings , ownershp of name of company , bank account of hsmp form or hsmp ltd ? some r asking donate money ? god knows why they need money in social cause
my friends we r looing for a cuase , an objective that promise made to people shold be respected
every one has an eye and mind , they are using it , lets have a effort for a cuase and make it sucessful otherwise most those were without degree , 32+ yrs and eaning less than 35 k r n trouble
hidayat wrote:your name says willnotbackhsmp and you are asking me if i am hsmp holder, yes i am and don't want the campaign to be made dirty by such people bcos of which home office is introducing such rules. I know few people whose extensions got revoked after home office came to know about how they managed docs.
There are some people who will get tempted to such offers but this will hamper the overall cause.
By the way i was banned from that site for opening my mouth.
dokwal wrote:Dear all,
HSMP people are holding a get together and blood donation on 12 /9/07 in central London , this is to support for 1+3+1 HSMP visa holders
it is really hard for some HSMP holders to get extension after 4 years of stay , the one who is suffereing can understand this
please support the cause
thanks
hidayat wrote:you are talking about hsmpforum.org they are the people who are fighting against the retrospective changes implemented by home office. They have also filed a judicial review against home office. Earlier hsmpforum.com used to be the organisation's website but due to some problems encountered by the person who was running that website and was involved in unsolicited activities. The regd organisation hsmp forum decided to start the organisation's own website hsmpforum.org
The people i am talking about are hsmpforum.com and they are fraudsters. Home Office is making statements on abusing the system etc because of people like them. I have evidence through information and emails interaction between some people and the webmaster. I need information on how to give complaints or inform police. The main problem overall is many people made contributions for the judicial review in the account handled by the old website hsmpforum.com and the webmaster it seems is fraudulently holding on people's money and not releasing it for the judicial review which was filed by the organisation.
pantaiema wrote:
hidayat
Do U have evidence for this ?
I know that they have been asking donation for legal cost. But that it is.
I Understand that they are trying to sue the HO for restrocpective chnage to HSMP ?.
The fuss surrounding the name "HSMP Forum" has gotten me really confused and I am angry that some people are allegedly making money out of the misery of other people. I had always though that HSMP Forum.org, HSMP Forum.com and HSMP Forumltd.org (or HSMP Forum dot whatever) are managed by the same set of people...and what the heck as blood donation got to do with protesting against the Nov 8 changes?!?pantaiema wrote:SO U r two website
www.hsmpforum.org (good guy)
But it seems have changed to be
http://www.hsmpforumltd.com/index.html (which seems to be fraudsters)
www.hsmpforum.com (fraudster ?)
I think the people who have have donated money and been deceived, must report it to the police.
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hidayat wrote:What sort of absurd mindset is that?? Can’t you hear the voices here, hundreds of people paid for the judicial review on the pretext which the campaign was started and that has been the heart and sole of fighting the campaign against the home office.
The Judicial Review is in doldrums bcos of fraudsters. Legal battles are the only way to shake the system. There have been 2 demonstrations already and there can be more but any demonstration which is organised by fraudsters like Saifur, Rajeev, you and others (at www.hsmpforum.com) cannot be supported by sane hsmp holders.
People like you are interested to sort out your own INDIVIDUAL interests and not overall cause.