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Can you put some dates on that please? That is :-quickquick wrote:As I said earlier my mother has been in the UK since the age of 5 and has never left, doesn’t that constitute as "settled"?
There's 6-7 ways of showing settlement, arguably more when secondary evidence comes into it. The latter being form NS bound most likely.f2k wrote:Your case is very interesting and complex as well. IMO i think there are a number of ways of looking at it.
First thing as you you have already realised the IPS (passport agency) will not issue you with a passport until YOU prove you are British. How you do this is the question really and there too could lie a number of different answers.
1/ You could go to the route of proving your mother was British or Settled when you born therefore. By settled they mean she had Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) or ILE.
Sadly no. Relying on form NS to reveal data to auto confirm your nationality is a scam.AsifQadir wrote:Now I am aware of the NS form which can help me determine whether I am a british citizen. But can I rely on this application to let the Passport Office do check on their systems to see if they can just check if my birth mother had ILR before I was born and get a certificate like that?
How old was she?paul1983 wrote:My mother was born in Amerca but moved here as a child in the 70s.
Your father is on your 'birth line' and may pass on some form citizenship as well. What is his citizenship?paul1983 wrote:My father is not on my birth lines so i cant claim through him.
Cost a lot money? Depends on your perspective. Take years? In your, case I doubt it.paul1983 wrote:I have been told to apply for british citizenship which costs alot of money and can take years.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.paul1983 wrote:If i am honest i feel offended that i have to apply and pay money to be part of a country i was born and raised in.
Need your mother's age when she came over. Need your father citizenship details.paul1983 wrote:I am also not sure if i can get an American passport
Don't leave the country until your UK status is firm and settled! At this point, I wouldn't bother with a U.S. passport. Focus on the British one first.paul1983 wrote:if so can i use it like a normal British passport or would i have problems getting out and in the country?
Well everything depends on your mom's age when she came to the UK and your dad's citizenship. You *might* be stateless. As strange as it may sound, this actually would be an advantage as you can probably go straight for British citizenship. If you are in fact demonstrably American, you may have to become 'settled' first and then later go on to naturalization. If your mother had ILR before you were born, you are automatically British at birth no matter what the deal with American citizenship might be.paul1983 wrote:I have no idea what to do so any help would be much appreciated.
Not true. The UK is a sovereign nation and its providence to give someone rights to live and work in this country is entirely its own, and does NOT depend on whatever citizenship other countries may bestow. That's strictly between you and that country. But don't travel outside of the UK until your status here is settled and undeniable.paul1983 wrote:...going for a american passport is a bad idea because it could give up my rights to live and work in this country.
I do not understand what you mean with this cryptic remark 'He is not on my birth lines', but let me assure you that his citizenship has a direct influence on yours. If he is British, then you are British by birth. Is he listed on your birth certificate? Also, I believe your mother was British by Descent, which also means you are British by birth (things are looking up). Can you get a copy of your mother's birth certificate and a copy of your grandparent's marriage certificate?paul1983 wrote:My grandmother met my grandfather in the war he was a american soldier.She was british.They moved to amercia for a while.My mother was born over there.My grandparents moved back to the uk.My mother must have been ten or eleven years old i am not sure but lived her until she died in 1993.I never new my father but he is british.He is not on my birth lines
Thanks
Also your grandmother's birth certificate?Can you get a copy of your mother's birth certificate and a copy of your grandparent's marriage certificate?
If you know where they were married, it shouldn't be a problem to get their marriage certificate. If you know which state your mother was born in, it won't be much of a problem to write to the state and get a copy of her birth certificate. That alone may be enough, but it probably wouldn't hurt to get your maternal grandmother's birth certificate as well. Assuming everything you've said is accurate, you are British by birth without question. You just need to get some documents together, all of which are public records.paul1983 wrote:I was wrong my grandparents were married in 1954 in the UK.
thanks
Best quote I've read on here. We as British-born to foreign parents, need our own section or forum. Nobody sympathises with our plight. Our parents' records were destroyed by the government and nobody gives a damn. We are worthless in the country we're born and raised in. Only the indigenous population have their records permanently recorded and cared for.quickquick wrote:I'm unwilling to naturalise as its embarrassing, I was born in Britain and I have never left the country so naturalisation is not an option I'm willing to take just for the formability of obtaining a passport.