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Only for the UK Skilled Worker visas, formerly known as Tier 2 visa route

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RAJ007
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Help Help Please

Post by RAJ007 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:34 am

Hello Everyone,

My friend is in trouble at the moment. He applied for Tier 2 in Aug 2014 and was on PSW before that and the expiry of PSW visa was in Sept 2014.

Visa got rejected and No refusal letter was sent and Straight away detained on 14th OCT 2014.

So basically they made him overstayed by not sending refusal letter.

He now has the Oral Hearing in Jan 2015. He is now in detention centre for a month now.

Can he get a bail or Temporary Release? and for that does he need a guarantor?

How can he prove that Refusal Letter was not Received.

Please help me on this.

Many Thanks

aiza78601
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Re: Help Help Please

Post by aiza78601 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:21 pm

yes he can get bail,ist he need to apply for bail and nominate some one for who gave assurance on his behalf

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Re: Help Help Please

Post by Obie » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:46 pm

I have split your post as it was posted on the wrong forum.

Can you tell me the reason for the refusal.

I hope he was never involved with ETS.

Sounds a bit harsh.

How and when was he detained?

DOes he have evidence that his application was sent?

Did he provide UKVI with a return Special delivery envelope?
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RAJ007
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Re: Help Help Please

Post by RAJ007 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:59 pm

Application was Sent for Tier 2. And they say COS was not valid.

He never got refusal letter and was detained straight away from home.

What is the best he can do.

Also can they deport him forcefully.

He has a oral hearing in court for is JR next month.

Please provide your best advice for him on this.

Many Thanks.

RAJ007
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Re: Help Help Please

Post by RAJ007 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:00 pm

Application was Sent for Tier 2. And they say COS was not valid.

He never got refusal letter and was detained straight away from home.

What is the best he can do.

Also can they deport him forcefully.

He has a oral hearing in court for is JR next month.

Please provide your best advice for him on this.

Many Thanks.

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Re: Help Help Please

Post by Frontier Mole » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:44 am

Your friend was almost certainly an ETS deception case.
How he was found, arrested and detained all point to him as being an individual that provided a TOEIC certificate that has been identified as obtained by using a proxy test taker.
He would have been served with three separate documents at the time of his arrest. The first piece of paper thrust into his hand was the refusal document, with no right of appeal clause due to employing deception.
The second is the paperwork saying due to the refusal and the deception employed his is now an instant overstayer and liable to be detained and the last is the paperwork that states you are now detained and liable for removal.
No doubt he was woken up about 5 or 6 am, told the above while half asleep and half terrified and then escorted off to the van with a bag full of items.

His JR will almost certainly be turned down, very few have progressed and not one case has been successful in convincing the court that the evidence is inaccurate or wrong as yet.

Is there a likelihood of him being removed, it is almost certain. Several hundreds have departed already, there are hundreds awaiting like your friend.

Bail is a bit of a lottery, if he gets bail then he will have done well. Many have tried but because of the deceptive element involved it is very hard to convince the Bail Judge that he will not abscond. With an imminent JR pending it is unlikely he will be granted bail because if the JR application is turned down he will be removable almost immediately. If the JR is a full substantive hearing that would change things and bail is more than likely to be granted.

None of which paints an great picture.

RAJ007
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Re: Help Help Please

Post by RAJ007 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:46 am

Hello

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Re: Help Help Please

Post by RAJ007 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:51 am

Hi Frontire,

My friend was deported this week. Is very sad day for me. Tried all possible means but could not stop him.

It exactly happend what you said in your reply.

I have a question for you guy, he was given his passport at airport but was not given his degree and marksheet.

Could you please guys tell me how to get his back from UKVI.

You help would be much appriciated guys.

Please help.

Many Thanks.

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Re: Help Help Please

Post by aiza78601 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:44 pm

so sorry to hear this,he was detained more then 2 month,i m surprised y he didt try to get bail.

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Re: Help Help Please

Post by RAJ007 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:09 pm

Hello guys,

Will he have any problem applying to other countries if the person is deported from UK.

Many Thanks.

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