cash in hand residence ok for eu1 form?

[robsters]

cut long story short me and my wife found a house someone built at the back of there own house, no real contract just paying by the week to rent there, will we be able to use this persons address to get PPS numbers and to fill out eu1 form ? or will it not be seen as a real residence? also my wife was given 30 days but i managed to extend her on a stamp 3 for 90 days while i find a job will she be ok with all of this once eu1 form filled out when i get a job

[CalvinKlien]

To get a PPS number, you need a proof of address, your landlord can write you a letter confirming your residence and I hope she would be able to get her PPS number. But most important thing is that the PPS office do not issue PPS numbers now a days without a proof of employment. If she have a job offer than she can get PPS number alternatively she would need a letter from Immigration office to issue her a PPS number if DOJ really want her PPS number. Anyway you can try and go to the social welfare office and see what they say....

Yes you can fill the EU1 form on the same address and attach your landlord's confirmation letter confirming your residence. Do you have separate electricity / Gas / Telephone meter ? As DOJ might be looking for a utility bill confirming your residence. You better to get a joint bank account which is also considered a proof of address.

On the long run, you better to get residence where you can have seperate bills for electricity / Gas / Telephone as they are considered proof of addresses and she will need them from time to time. i.e. when applying for permanenet residence card after 5 years and for her Irish passport and if you ever travel to another EU country and need a visa the embassy would be looking for such proofs.

Good Luck

[PrestonLancs]

I am doing some research well in advance, to bring my non eu spouse to Ireland with me (British citizen).
I have noticed that most of the rentals around dublin are either a little flat built into the rear of house, or a room in the house itself. The terminilogy used is a bit confusing too. Some rooms within a house are mentioned as studio. Many times its never clear if its a separate property with its own address, or part of a big house. Specially for people who intend to use SS route, this is quite important, as they need all bills etc the their name to pass "centre of life" requirements.

Would appreciate any input from people who have rented recently in or around dublin, as that is where most of the jobs seem to be, at least for my line of work. Are the websites the best way to find rental properties? or is there another way to just hunt around, or go to estate/rental agencies or just look at adverts in shop windowns or local newspapers?

[jeupsy]

I am doing some research well in advance, to bring my non eu spouse to Ireland with me (British citizen).
I have noticed that most of the rentals around dublin are either a little flat built into the rear of house, or a room in the house itself. The terminilogy used is a bit confusing too. Some rooms within a house are mentioned as studio. Many times its never clear if its a separate property with its own address, or part of a big house. Specially for people who intend to use SS route, this is quite important, as they need all bills etc the their name to pass "centre of life" requirements.

Would appreciate any input from people who have rented recently in or around dublin, as that is where most of the jobs seem to be, at least for my line of work. Are the websites the best way to find rental properties? or is there another way to just hunt around, or go to estate/rental agencies or just look at adverts in shop windowns or local newspapers?

Have a look at http://www.daft.ie/

If you go under the "To Rent" section you would expect a lease and your won address/bills. "Sharing" would be rooms in a larger house - probably not what you want.

[robsters]

in terns if getting irish residence card its ok just to share or rent room in back of a house etc? because uk residence card and centre of life is a long process anyway i just want to submit the eu1 form for my wife getting stamo4 and residence card for ireland for the moment and the land lady here said she write a letter to confirm our address of residence for eu1 form

as for moving back to uk later that was not my question here, and the law is due to change the uk where other eu member state residence cards will be valid in the uk rendering the centre of life obsolete once the law gets changed that is

[SelectMe]

http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Personal ... Apply.aspx
The following are not acceptable as Proof of ID
Baptismal Certificate
Employment Identity cards or Personal letters
Photo-copies of certificates/document
Expired documents (For Irish and UK citizens passports expired within the last 12 months may be accepted)
Address Documents

The document submitted, as proof of address, must show the customer’s name and address and can be any one of the following:

a household utility bill
an official letter/document,
financial statement,
property lease or tenancy agreement,
verifiable* employer's letter,
confirmation of address by a third party such as a school principal/administrator, accommodation/property owner**or manager.

PPS office do not issue PPS numbers now a days without a proof of employment. If she have a job offer than she can get PPS number alternatively she would need a letter from Immigration office to issue her a PPS number if DOJ really want her PPS
number

where this come from?? any source for your comment??

[robsters]

so if our landlady writes a letter i can get PPS number? and my wife can fill out eu1 form for residence card for ireland?

[jeupsy]

It might be negotiable, but in theory you need to submit a PTRB registration letter with form EU1. This would mean you are renting your own place.

[robsters]

so it could be a problem renting from someone elses property such as a room? what is PTRB registration letter?

[robsters]

so it could be a problem renting from someone elses property such as a room? what is PTRB registration letter?

[PrestonLancs]

and the law is due to change the uk where other eu member state residence cards will be valid in the uk rendering the centre of life obsolete once the law gets changed that is

Even if UK were to fully implement the judgement in recent McCarthy case, it will just be for visit purpose.
Settling in UK under SS route is altogether a different matter.

[jeupsy]

so it could be a problem renting from someone elses property such as a room? what is PTRB registration letter?

Yes it might make thinks more complicated.

The PTRB letter is a proof that your landlord registered your tenancy with the tenancies regulation authority.

Have a look at the document checklist of form EU1, it will give you an idea of the documents you will need to have ready when you want to apply.

[robsters]

my uncle lives in Dublin is it possible to just say we living with family for the EU1 form?

[PrestonLancs]

Why give false information on the application form?

Why not get a simple written contract from whoever you are renting. They can also write another simple letter stating that since they live in the same property, PRTB registration is not required.

[Leinsterimmig]

PRTB letter is not essential for EU Treaty Rights application for Stamp 4 EUFam. A letter from the landlord or co-tenant along with a utility bill is sufficient

[robsters]

yeah our landlady said she happy to write a letter to say we are living here so under treaty rights we be ok?