FLR(O) AFTER REFUSAL FROM UT TO APPEAL TO UT,28DAYS

[jp1524]

Hi Guys,

i came here in 2006-jun. then made various applications to extend visas. then i applied for tier 1 entrepreneur in 2012-may,
which was rejected with right of appeal, which was heard in jun-2013, FTT judge asked HO to reconsider the application, which
home office did and refused again with right of appeal. i went to FTT they dismissed the appeal then ask for permission to appeal
from FTT to go to UT, they refused it and then i asked permission to appeal to UT to appeal to UT itself, last month even they
dismissed that with no further right of appeal.
now i saw different solicitors and finally decided to apply for FLR(0), WITH IN 28 DAYS FROM THE DATE ON THE LETTER FROM UT.
my question is what should mention while submitting fresh application of flr(o)? i do not have my passport, marriage certificate, english test result, degree certificate, all with HO.
i was told to submit bank statement, p60, payslips and all but not too sure.
please answer guys,,,,,
need urgent help.

thanks

[Obie]

What is your personal circumstances, and why were you advised to apply for FLR(O)

[jp1524]

Hi Obie,
thanks for your answer.
i was told to apply for flr(o) from almost 8 different solicitors.ofcourse i was suggested tier 4, but i dont have ielts, to sit for the exam they need passport which is as of yet held by HO. i am ready to apply for tier 1 entrepreneur again but they said i need to show them
£200000.00 and not 50000.00 so this is not good idea. what do you suggest?
flr(0)? or flr(fp) o any other category. i have my wife who came to the UK in 2009-nov and have 2 kids born here.
please advise...
kind regards

[Zee ali]

Hi Obie,
thanks for your answer.
i was told to apply for flr(o) from almost 8 different solicitors.ofcourse i was suggested tier 4, but i dont have ielts, to sit for the exam they need passport which is as of yet held by HO. i am ready to apply for tier 1 entrepreneur again but they said i need to show them
£200000.00 and not 50000.00 so this is not good idea. what do you suggest?
flr(0)? or flr(fp) o any other category. i have my wife who came to the UK in 2009-nov and have 2 kids born here.
please advise...
kind regards

How old r your kids.

Correct form is flr fp . Family and private life.

Chances r slim but u have no other option

[jp1524]

thanks zee.

one is 3.5 years and another is 1.5 years.
solicitor advised me today that flr(o) is point based ,,, my last granted was PSW (expired in 2011)so that is good for my case.
i was surprised though, but belived her words.... have not applied yet.
she said flr fp might not go through
hope to hear from you soon.
thanks again

[Highly_Skilled]

thanks zee.

one is 3.5 years and another is 1.5 years.
solicitor advised me today that flr(o) is point based ,,, my last granted was PSW (expired in 2011)so that is good for my case.
i was surprised though, but belived her words.... have not applied yet.
she said flr fp might not go through
hope to hear from you soon.
thanks again

Sorry it would appear you have been ill-advised. FLR(O) is not points-based. When using this form you are applying for leave-to-remain Outside the Rules.

In your situation, you would need to demonstrate that it is not possible for your family life to continue from your country of origin. The H.O will state that your children are young enough to adapt to life back in your country of origin. Therefore, you will need to demonstrate that your relationship is genuine (with at least 2 years worth of documentation to show you've been together) OR provide evidence as to why there are obstacles to your life continuing oversea's.

[jp1524]

thanks zee.
so that means , the best solution is to apply under flr(fp)?
i have documentations from last 5 years of been living together.. i dont have my wife's name on the utility bills but
her bank statements are registered at the same address, and of course kids live with me since they born(do i need to show any proof for that?). can you kindly supply me a drafting of how to demonstrate the life outside the country will be not the same as here...or any
other format best suits to my case..
finally what is the basic difference in flr 0 and flr fp ?
thanks for great help highly skilled
regards

[ALKB]

i have my wife who came to the UK in 2009-nov and have 2 kids born here.
please advise...
kind regards

I don't think the OP's wife is British.

[jp1524]

wife is my dependant..

[jp1524]

hi all ,

i have another question ..
which form should i use while making an application..
flr(o) or flr(fp)..
came here in june-2006, my wife came nov-2009. now 2 kids born here.
upper tribunal refused the permission to appeal to the upper tribunal.
last granted was psw ,expired in 2011-july and then had lots of applications and appeals done..
need your urgent help.

thanks

[Zee ali]

hi all ,

i have another question ..
which form should i use while making an application..
flr(o) or flr(fp)..
came here in june-2006, my wife came nov-2009. now 2 kids born here.
upper tribunal refused the permission to appeal to the upper tribunal.
last granted was psw ,expired in 2011-july and then had lots of applications and appeals done..
need your urgent help.

thanks

After psw which application u made? what do u mean by lots of application and appeals?

If u already applied flr fp and got refused and exhaust appeal rights . Than very hard for u to get visa on flr fp basis.

If u made lots of application than i think your 10 years continuity break.

[Obie]

Is you lawyer minded to make an application under the Point based system or Article 8.

[jp1524]

hi all ,

i have another question ..
which form should i use while making an application..
flr(o) or flr(fp)..
came here in june-2006, my wife came nov-2009. now 2 kids born here.
upper tribunal refused the permission to appeal to the upper tribunal.
last granted was psw ,expired in 2011-july and then had lots of applications and appeals done..
need your urgent help.

thanks

After psw which application u made? what do u mean by lots of application and appeals?

If u already applied flr fp and got refused and exhaust appeal rights . Than very hard for u to get visa on flr fp basis.

If u made lots of application than i think your 10 years continuity break.[/quobe


before my psw expired, i applied for tier4 in jun 2011 which was becasue of the college shut down , was refused and i won the
appeal with 60 days time to fine another or change the category, then i applied for tier 1 entrepreneur in may 2012 which ended in jan 2015.

[jp1524]

Is you lawyer minded to make an application under the Point based system or Article 8.

thanks obie, i have no idea whether flr o or flr fp is under point based system, i doubt it though...
what my concern is all about that which form to use and what supporting documents to produce so for case worker it makes
some sort of sense to consider the application in positive side.
please advise of your best knowledge,
thanks

[Zee ali]

Is you lawyer minded to make an application under the Point based system or Article 8.

thanks obie, i have no idea whether flr o or flr fp is under point based system, i doubt it though...
what my concern is all about that which form to use and what supporting documents to produce so for case worker it makes
some sort of sense to consider the application in positive side.
please advise of your best knowledge,
thanks

Very Very hard for u to get visa on human right or Article 8 basis. Your kids r very young. Ho r refusing people whom kids r 7 years old as well.

No chance mate

[jp1524]

thank you zee for your information.
so what do you think is going to happen in my situation.
if i still go ahead for flr o or flr fp and if they refuse it , what is the next step?
any other category or ways to reach to ilr ?
please suggestions.
thanks

[Zee ali]

thank you zee for your information.
so what do you think is going to happen in my situation.
if i still go ahead for flr o or flr fp and if they refuse it , what is the next step?
any other category or ways to reach to ilr ?
please suggestions.
thanks

I told u before if u refuse this time than no appeal right and continuity will break.

[jp1524]

thats true, but can we not ask for appeal right?
because what i heard from this so called solicitors are we can ask for appeal right..
adding to this,,,,,,
they said apply for flr 0 then in the mean time while the decision is pending then get set 0 ready and apply on that basis ... ???
i have to be honest no idea what is happening , but may god save my case,,,, i pray to god that let me come out of it..
let s seee.
i always appreciate yours help and advise,,,
there are only few people on the earth nowadays who helps others,,the rest are busy and busy...

[jp1524]

hi all,
i am applying for flr o tomorrow. have no other option. any suggestion while making an application.
please advise guys.
thanks always

[Zee ali]

hi all,
i am applying for flr o tomorrow. have no other option. any suggestion while making an application.
please advise guys.
thanks always

Flr o is a wrong form if u r applying on the basis of human rights Article 8, child basis or whatever

Correct form is Flr fp

[jp1524]

thanks zee,
in my case, the things are employement/self employment, family and private life,the time spend in the UK me and my wife both
8.5 and 6.3 years respectively and etc etc.. so flr fp is the right one ?

[jp1524]

hi all,
i am applying for flr o tomorrow. have no other option. any suggestion while making an application.
please advise guys.
thanks always

Flr o is a wrong form if u r applying on the basis of human rights Article 8, child basis or whatever

Correct form is Flr fp

what is flr o basically designed for in that case? any idea ?
so confused now..

[Zee ali]

hi all,
i am applying for flr o tomorrow. have no other option. any suggestion while making an application.
please advise guys.
thanks always

Flr o is a wrong form if u r applying on the basis of human rights Article 8, child basis or whatever

Correct form is Flr fp

what is flr o basically designed for in that case? any idea ?
so confused now..

Did u actually see and go thorough with both applications?


I think no otherwise u would not ask this question

[jp1524]

sorry dear but i have not been through any of them...
what i know is only further leave to remain, one on family and private life(fp) and the all others comes into flr(o).
VERY IMPORTANT.... WHILE FLR(O)'S DECISION IS PENDING, CAN WE APPLY FOR ANY OTHER CATEGORY ?
i really need your help...
regards brother