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1. You don't need to apply for ILR because Permanent Residence under the EEA rules amounts to the same thing. You can apply for British citizenship one year later.PAPITO wrote:Hello
As I understand all EEA nationals will get PR after 5 years without the need to apply with EEA3.
If I am german living 5 years in November and my wife and step daughter non-eu member dependant living now 4 years with family permit expiring in 2009 (they joined me a year after I came to the UK).
Is it better to not apply for ILR and wait 'till I have 6 years to apply for citizenship? and them as British citenzen apply for my family for citizenship?
or should I apply for ILR in forms EEA3 and EEA4 for me and my family together in November with a letter explaning that as Eu memebr to be granted ILR my family should have same status? or this does not exist?
It will. But the drawback here is that you will have to apply for the spouse visa for your wife and then the dependant visa for your children if you want to use that route and spend the 2 years on that to qualify. Time spend under the EU rules as a family member do not count for that!PAPITO wrote:But won't the rule change for them once I become British citizen? and they will be able to apply after 2 or 3 years living in the UK?
That is the other drawback with the EU route. Your family will not be granted ILR just because you get it. That happens only under the UK rules. They will have to stay here for a total of 5 years for them to obtain PR and applying with you should end up in rejection. Why should? This is the HO we are talking about and sometimes I get the feeling that they themselves have no clue what rules to apply and when! So, if you were to try and succeed as it is a free application anyway, do come back and let us know. It would be one for the files here!won't it be easier to apply now in November for ILR and add my family (in a separate application form with a cover letter) so that if as a EU member been granted one status (ILR or PR)) my family will be granted the same?
It should be. Plus you will also be exercising the treaty rights during the time, right? Only one of you has to be exercising the treaty rights and is she is a student and you are working, at the time of application for the PR, you can chose to disclose either.If my wife (4 years in UK now) starts Uni as full time student now, will this still be counted towards the 5 years needed for ILR?
The PR can be refused if the state can show that your wife have been an 'unreasonable burden on the state resources' and so I do not know how such a scenario will be interpreted.and will it be a problem if she applies for student loan and is given grants, etc?
Which country, out of interest?PAPITO wrote:Thanks for the reply,
My wife and daughter are from South America
Stop thinking about ILR - it doesn't apply to you.But won't the rule change for them once I become British citizen? and they will be able to apply after 2 or 3 years living in the UK?
Or
won't it be easier to apply now in November for ILR and add my family (in a separate application form with a cover letter) so that if as a EU member been granted one status (ILR or PR)) my family will be granted the same?
When is your wife planning on starting her course?PAPITO wrote:Once again thanks for your replies
Another question if I may ask!!
If my wife (4 years in UK now) starts Uni as full time student now, will this still be counted towards the 5 years needed for ILR?
and will it be a problem if she applies for student loan and is given grants, etc?
Thanks
EcuadorWhich country, out of interest?
How can they become British Citizens? Don't they'll have to wait 1 year with ILR? or their status will change once I am British?As soon as you are a British citizen (early 2009, if you apply straight away), they can become British citizens too.
She will start now in Octuber, she can have the option to do full time or Part time as she is doing 75% of course (degree BA) entering to 2nd year.When is your wife planning on starting her course?
Has she applied for student loans and other financial assistance? If so, what has been the response from the company (about her status)?
If they want to keep their Ecuador citizenship, they need to check whether this is permitted once they become British citizens.PAPITO wrote:EcuadorWhich country, out of interest?
Once you are a British citizen your wife can apply for naturalisation if they have:How can they become British Citizens? Don't they'll have to wait 1 year with ILR? or their status will change once I am British?
They will become PR once they have completed 5 years, as far as I know. Not before.My intentions are to apply now in November that I am entiltled to PR as Eu residing in UK for 5 years and ask for my family to be included too.
I am confuse about regulation 2006 15(1) (a) and 15(1)(f)
My wife will have 5 years in Oct/2008 and my daughter in Feb/2009!!!