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It's not illegal to *look* for a job on a VV. If you find an employer obviously they would want to see ur right to work here or be willing to apply for a WP for you. But for that u'd need to be highly-skilled/coveted and for there to be no local candidates suitable.Gattaca wrote:It is so unfortunate that looking for a job on a visitor's visa is illegal, how strict are they on this =(?
This is largely what the EU is trying to achieve for us Europeans. I honestly thought it would never work, but it's not too bad!Gattaca wrote:It's bizarre to contemplate the thought of not being able to travel and live where you please.
Platty - I agree but don't tell UK IO what ur doing re jobs, I see the point. Being caught with job interview appointments would mean a trip home in UK ...Platinum wrote:If you're willing to do anything, think about studying a subject that will get you in almost anywhere: nursing or medicine.
Or: finish your bachelor's degree and apply to a UK university for graduate school. If you're good enough, you will be funded, especially in the sciences. I did a science degree, but I didn't try to do grad school in the UK. I did it in the US, pursued jobs in Europe, and got offers. Try that?
You're *technically* not supposed to look for work on a visitor's visa (or visa waiver) but as long as you intend on returning to your home country to await the required work permit, it's fine. I came into EU countries for my interviews, and when asked, said I was entering the country for a job interview. No one batted an eye. Not even the Germans! Mind you, I had proof of specific interview appointments and stuff. I didn't just saunter up to passport control and say, Oh, I dunno, I was thinkin' about looking for work.
Strong allies? Only when it suits you guys, I guess...*Gattaca wrote:Wanderer, I read somewhere that it was illegal to job hunt while on your visitor's visa. Are you sure you are allowed to apply and job hunt while in UK while on visitor's visa? I keep reading work permits are so hard becuase you have to basically be hired without even ever meeting the person, and the employer has to prove to the city that there was no other qualified applicants in all of the UK.
Is it even possible to get a job in another EU country without being fluent in the native language?
I'm so distressed lately finding out how difficult it is to migrate to the UK from the US. I always just assumed since we were "strong allies" that being a US citizen migrated to the UK would be easy. Boy was I wrong.
But that's why I'm here. Like I said I'm prepared to take any step necessary over the next 2 yrs 9 months to make my move and citizenship to the UK a reality. Even if it means learning another language I suppose.
It's bizarre to contemplate the thought of not being able to travel and live where you please. It makes sense and all, but it's bizarre to contemplate the fact. I wish people could just trade citizenships (haha). I find somebody that wants US citizenship, they are Brit citizen, we trade!
Thanks for the responses so far everyone.
Haha well first, you won't catching me politically defending the US. I don't want to be "an American," as bad and as unappreciative as that sounds...sakura wrote: Strong allies? Only when it suits you guys, I guess...*
OK. Firstly, your majors are not very "travel-worthy"...not like IT, Medicine, Nursing or Teaching. So, you'd need to have a great deal of work experience in order to get a work permit - there are so many graduates in a position similar to yours that there'd be little chance of you securing a work permit without relevant work experience (i.e. a 'fresh' graduate would find it hard competing with EU nationals). Well, not that it's impossible...I'm assuming that with creative writing you want to be a journalist/publishing or author or something? Journalism might be good, but you'd have to be pretty high up to get a work permit (+ crap loads of competition in this field). Marketing might be a good way in (advertising marketing)...since it has high bonuses/OTE, etc, and good pay scale. Might help you with the HSMP points requirements. However, all us here will point out to you that by 2010 the rules for HSMP/work permit would certainly have changed (by how much, no one knows), since the government is planning on introducing a tiered migration scheme, and maybe making the requirements for work permits a little tougher (apparently too many people with a WP can't prove that they speak English, for example!). So expect some changes.
Not sure about why you mention your own home...unless you plan to sell it and use it to fund your studies? If you do plan to study here, it's not the fastest route to settlement and might mean you might have to study much longer than you can take, just to meet the residency requirements.
When do you graduate? When does your girlfriend graduate? What does she study?
Do you actually know anything about living in the UK? Have you been to London, 'tested the waters'? I suggest you do at least visit here and see what it's like.
Unfortunately, employers are generally not very interested in trying to employ people for whom they would need to get a work permit, unless of course the position is a senior one or the person has some particular experience or skills that are scarce. It is not uncommon, when you read the small print, for job descriptions and the like to contain a note to the effect that applicants must have the right to work in the United Kingdom.Gattaca wrote:This is all very good to know. I am a little relieved at knowing that you can look for work while on visitor's visa, but you just have to be careful. In general do employers mind doing this? Having you go home for a week or two while they get you a worker's visa?
I think I must have been. The desire has been strong for a very long time.sammie121 wrote:Have you been to the UK for a visit at any time?
Your desire to move here scares me......... Maybe you were British in a past life.
Certainly doesn't sound arrogant, but a visit to spend some time in the UK would be a good idea in any case: not for any specific future purpose but just to travel around a bit and to get some idea of how the place really ticks.Gattaca wrote:Hard to explain and I'm sure it sounds naive and arrogant, but I will pursue my goal to no ends.