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I like the idea but I don't have much knowledge, I am just startingarchigabe wrote:why don't you compose one? we can make suggestions and send it to him.
thanks!
To:Vice President Franco Frattini
EUROPEAN COMMISSION
B-1049 BRUSSELS
From:
Your name,
Address
Sub: Residence Cards for non E.U spouse of E.U citizen in Ireland.
Dear Mr.Frattini,
this letter is to complain against the Irish interpretation of the Free Movement of Labour regulations, Statutory Instrument No. 656 of 2006 which requires prior residency in another European country before they will issue a residency permit for my Non E.U spouse.
(http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/SI656of2 ... of2006.pdf)
I believe that the Irish 656 is discriminatory against E.U citizens compared to Irish citizens. It places an undue burden on E.U citizens which is not expected from Irish citizens to live in another E.U country.This is contrary to the spirit and letter of the E.U free movement laws whose aim is that Citizens from other E.U countries should have no disadvantage compared to local citizens. There are currently around 1000 E.U /Non E.U couples whose lives have been disrupted because of the Irish interepretation of the European Directive. The European commission in Ireland has not been pro active in this regard. I request you to direct the European commission to take action on this issue and direct the Irish government to issue a residence card to my Spouse.
Sincerely,
XXXX
archigabe wrote:Here's a sample...
To:Vice President Franco Frattini
EUROPEAN COMMISSION
B-1049 BRUSSELS
From:
Your name,
Address
Sub: Residence Cards for non E.U spouse of E.U citizen in Ireland.
Dear Mr.Frattini,
this letter is to complain against the Irish interpretation of the Free Movement of Labour regulations, Statutory Instrument No. 656 of 2006 which requires prior residency in another European country before they will issue a residency permit for my Non E.U spouse.
(http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/SI656of2 ... of2006.pdf)
I believe that the Irish 656 is discriminatory against E.U citizens compared to Irish citizens. It places an undue burden on E.U citizens which is not expected from Irish citizens to live in another E.U country.This is contrary to the spirit and letter of the E.U free movement laws whose aim is that Citizens from other E.U countries should have no disadvantage compared to local citizens. There are currently around 1000 E.U /Non E.U couples whose lives have been disrupted because of the Irish interepretation of the European Directive. The European commission in Ireland has not been pro active in this regard. I request you to direct the European commission to take action on this issue and direct the Irish government to issue a residence card to my Spouse.
Sincerely,
XXXX
Ahh, Okay but a petition will make an impact if there are several if not more signatories with attached documentation of situations. Well, this isyankeegirl wrote:Perhaps archgabe posed that as an example for others to put in their own personal information and send them in individually?I thought your complain would include others as well.
I a draft prepared but never got together to finish it, hell of a week...archigabe wrote:Here's a sample...
To:Vice President Franco Frattini
EUROPEAN COMMISSION
B-1049 BRUSSELS
From:
Your name,
Address
Sub: Residence Cards for non E.U spouse of E.U citizen in Ireland.
Dear Mr.Frattini,
this letter is to complain against the Irish interpretation of the Free Movement of Labour regulations, Statutory Instrument No. 656 of 2006 which requires prior residency in another European country before they will issue a residency permit for my Non E.U spouse.
(http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/SI656of2 ... of2006.pdf)
I believe that the Irish 656 is discriminatory against E.U citizens compared to Irish citizens. It places an undue burden on E.U citizens which is not expected from Irish citizens to live in another E.U country.This is contrary to the spirit and letter of the E.U free movement laws whose aim is that Citizens from other E.U countries should have no disadvantage compared to local citizens. There are currently around 1000 E.U /Non E.U couples whose lives have been disrupted because of the Irish interepretation of the European Directive. The European commission in Ireland has not been pro active in this regard. I request you to direct the European commission to take action on this issue and direct the Irish government to issue a residence card to my Spouse.
Sincerely,
XXXX
That's true, but it'd be hard to get it together - not to mention that we really will be able to append the names of a very small number of all the group that is affected by this.bibbay wrote: Ahh, Okay but a petition will make an impact if there are several if not more signatories with attached documentation of situations. Well, this is
my opinion...thanks
Here's the version I'll send tomorrow.Dear Mr. Frattini,
I urgently appeal to you to take action and direct the European commission to address this issue and direct the Irish government to issue a residence card to my Spouse, XXXXX. XXXXX was born and has citizenship in the United States of America, but has been forced to live with me in Ireland with the uncertainty of residence hanging over her head.
What is causing this uncertainty is the unfair Irish interpretation of the Article 10(2) of Directive 2004/58/EC, namely the Statutory Instrument No. 656 of 2006. This piece of legislation requires prior residency in another European country before the Irish state will issue a residency permit for my Non-E.U spouse.
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/SI656of2 ... of2006.pdf
I believe that the Statutory Instrument 656 is discriminatory against E.U citizens compared to Irish citizens. It places an undue burden on E.U citizens, which is not expected from Irish citizens to live in another E.U country. It also does not offer any clear alternative path at all for people in this situation.
This is contrary to the spirit and letter of the E.U free movement laws whose aim is that Citizens from other E.U countries should have no disadvantage compared to local citizens. There are currently around 1000 E.U /Non E.U couples whose lives have been disrupted because of the Irish interpretation of the European Directive. The European commission in Ireland has not been pro-active in this regard at all.
We implore you to put pressure on the Irish Government to help situations like ours and others that are affected by this.
Thank you in advance of your response.
Yours sincerely,
XXXX
Where did you complain online? Can you please post the URLGreenApple wrote:i did received letter from EU commission regarding the Ireland.if you are interesting go to online eu commission and make complain..its very good :)
Hi, I don't wanna seem like a total mule but what exactly is E.U1? The thing that has me really annoyed is that my wife, she's Russian (has a Stamp4), cannot get a Stamp 4 EU FAM because I am Irish! It is totally illogical.archigabe wrote:Mr.Frattini seems worried about attracting new immigrants...
http://euobserver.com/9/24761/?rk=1
Lets complain that immigrant spouses who are already here in Ireland are facing a tough time and are being kicked out by the Irish government. Here's the link to the website of the Vice President in charge of Justice, Freedom and Security, Franco Frattini here.
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/ ... act_en.htm
Since you are an Irish national, your family comes under Irish national law and under the discretion of the minister of Justice,Ireland.EU fam card issued under the E.U1 application form is for Non Irish E.U citizen's families living in Ireland.irish_ruskei wrote:Hi, I don't wanna seem like a total mule but what exactly is E.U1? The thing that has me really annoyed is that my wife, she's Russian (has a Stamp4), cannot get a Stamp 4 EU FAM because I am Irish! It is totally illogical.archigabe wrote:Mr.Frattini seems worried about attracting new immigrants...
http://euobserver.com/9/24761/?rk=1
Lets complain that immigrant spouses who are already here in Ireland are facing a tough time and are being kicked out by the Irish government. Here's the link to the website of the Vice President in charge of Justice, Freedom and Security, Franco Frattini here.
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/ ... act_en.htm
Also annoyed that she has to get visas to go to another EU State even though Directive 2004/38/EC says otherwise. Actually, the Latvians told me by phone that she did not need to get a visa in advance in Dublin (when I told the Danes this they said the Latvians were wrong!) and yesterday I got an email from the Czechs saying she could get a visa when she lands at the airport in Czech Rep.
Also contacted the Lithuanians and they said they didn't really know so who did they ask for advice?....The Irish! And of course the Irish told them that my wife needs to have an EU FAM otherwise she needs to get a visa beforehand. Lithuania is actually asking Ireland how to implement the directive! Ridiculous. I'm gonna follow it up! Got other emails and they all said she needs either EU FAM or a visa beforehand.....does this have anything to do with EU1? (Sorry if this is the wrong discussion bout EU FAM and Directive 2004/38/EC)
Hi there,Ark wrote:I got a response from the Head of Unit from the Citizenship and Fundamental Rights Directorate in the EU on behalf of Mr. Frattini. He indeed confirmed in a written missive that this Regulation 3 (2) was out of line with community laws and asked me for a copy of the letter I got from the DoJ with the denial of my request.
I sent it, and got contacted back by another Head of Unit member of the Secretariat-General for the Division SG-R-2, confirming that they were beginning an investigation on this regard.
I don't think its going to have a short term impact, to be honest - but hopefully at least it'll make this whole immigration farce a bit more public.
Telling her the include my case in the case# from Ark:post address:
Michal Meduna
DG JLS C3
rue du Luxembourg 46
BE-1049 Bruxelles
Belgium
Or does anyone have better addresses / reference-numbers that practically ensure our efforts are bundled?2007/4857 SG(2007) A/8611
For me it was sort-of the same answer.Ark wrote:I got a response from the Head of Unit from the Citizenship and Fundamental Rights Directorate in the EU on behalf of Mr. Frattini. He indeed confirmed in a written missive that this Regulation 3 (2) was out of line with community laws and asked me for a copy of the letter I got from the DoJ with the denial of my request.
I sent it, and got contacted back by another Head of Unit member of the Secretariat-General for the Division SG-R-2, confirming that they were beginning an investigation on this regard.
I don't think its going to have a short term impact, to be honest - but hopefully at least it'll make this whole immigration farce a bit more public.
Ark wrote:I got a response from the Head of Unit from the Citizenship and Fundamental Rights Directorate in the EU on behalf of Mr. Frattini. He indeed confirmed in a written missive that this Regulation 3 (2) was out of line with community laws and asked me for a copy of the letter I got from the DoJ with the denial of my request.
I sent it, and got contacted back by another Head of Unit member of the Secretariat-General for the Division SG-R-2, confirming that they were beginning an investigation on this regard.
I don't think its going to have a short term impact, to be honest - but hopefully at least it'll make this whole immigration farce a bit more public.
On other news, we're applying for the Italian citizenship of my wife as we've been married for 3 years - Here's hoping we can get her an Italian passport quickly.