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What type of visa was she on? If she was on a visitor visa then I'm surprised she was able to do this, as it's not meant to be used as a means to reside in the UK. Additionally, visitors are not by default entitled to free NHS healthcare. Further clarity on the type of visa she had would help others comment further.Double V wrote:My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.
She was visitor visa.cs95tdg wrote:What type of visa was she on? If she was on a visitor visa then I'm surprised she was able to do this, as it's not meant to be used as a means to reside in the UK. Additionally, visitors are not by default entitled to free NHS healthcare. Further clarity on the type of visa she had would help others comment further.Double V wrote:My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.
The topic would be more suitable for the general UK immigration forum.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... ion-forum/
Thanks vinny.vinny wrote:Topic moved.
This is will be a challenge for your mothers visa as she has effectively used a visitor visa to live in the UK and her immigration history is likely to be checked when she applies again. She has been very lucky that she has managed to get away with doing this for so long.My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.
You would have to declare this and since you don't have any proof over the 5 year period that she has paid for her medical care, it could result in refusal as she was not entitled to free NHS or prescriptions. Prescriptions/medication is free to people over 60 who qualify as residents (not visitors). Your mother should have been paying private rates at GP and paying for all her medication.Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.
So what can I do now ?CR001 wrote:This is will be a challenge for your mothers visa as she has effectively used a visitor visa to live in the UK and her immigration history is likely to be checked when she applies again. She has been very lucky that she has managed to get away with doing this for so long.My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.
You would have to declare this and since you don't have any proof over the 5 year period that she has paid for her medical care, it could result in refusal as she was not entitled to free NHS or prescriptions. Prescriptions/medication is free to people over 60 who qualify as residents (not visitors). Your mother should have been paying private rates at GP and paying for all her medication.Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.
I doubt the surgery would care to be honest, they most likely don't have the systems in place to refund since they rely on the veracity of the patient as to their entitlement.Double V wrote:So what can I do now ?CR001 wrote:This is will be a challenge for your mothers visa as she has effectively used a visitor visa to live in the UK and her immigration history is likely to be checked when she applies again. She has been very lucky that she has managed to get away with doing this for so long.My mother had 5 years of multiple visa which expired this January. She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years.
You would have to declare this and since you don't have any proof over the 5 year period that she has paid for her medical care, it could result in refusal as she was not entitled to free NHS or prescriptions. Prescriptions/medication is free to people over 60 who qualify as residents (not visitors). Your mother should have been paying private rates at GP and paying for all her medication.Now she is registered with a GP and receives her repeat prescriptions (last 2 years).
If I put "Yes" will it refuse her application ?
I did not pay for any prescription. I was under the impression that prescriptions are free for over 60 years old.
Can I go to GP and ask for total invoice for the prescriptions she had during 2 years. And pay it off and then attach the receipt ?
Will that help ?
And if so, how do I approach the GP. ?
Speak to the doctor or the reception staff. ?
The confusion has arisen from your original post where you write:Double V wrote:I think there is a confusion.
My mother did not live here for 5 years.
She was granted 5 years multiple visa. And she used to come and visit me during that period.
She used to stay with me for 6 months which is what is allowed. Then she went back to home country spent few months and then come back to UK for 6 months again.
She was registered with a GP in the last 2 years and received medication.
Do i have to pay for those medications and if so, how do i do it ? where to go to ?
Yeah I apologize. I am little worried. That is not what I meant.Casa wrote:The confusion has arisen from your original post where you write:Double V wrote:I think there is a confusion.
My mother did not live here for 5 years.
She was granted 5 years multiple visa. And she used to come and visit me during that period.
She used to stay with me for 6 months which is what is allowed. Then she went back to home country spent few months and then come back to UK for 6 months again.
She was registered with a GP in the last 2 years and received medication.
Do i have to pay for those medications and if so, how do i do it ? where to go to ?
"She used to live with me here in the UK for 6 months and then she would spent 1 week back home and come back to UK. She did this for whole 5 years."
5. VAT1.5 Frequency and duration of visits
There is no restriction on the number of visits a person may make to the UK nor any requirement that a specified time must elapse between successive visits. However, the Immigration Rules state that the applicant must show that they do not intend to live in the UK for extended periods through frequent and successive visits. An ECO must consider the reason for a series of visits with only brief intervals outside the UK between each visit. The ECO must consider the purpose of the visit against the time elapsed between visits and the duration of previous visits to the UK.
There is no Rule that states a visitor can only remain in the UK for 6 out of any 12 months, but an ECO must examine the pattern and frequency of visits to see that it does not amount to de facto residence...
Thanks for sharing this.cs95tdg wrote:Unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but have done a search to try and understand what has been officially published on this subject in the past to understand what the actual fees should be both for the healthcare received and prescriptions (I.e. Prior to the latest & most recent news around healthcare for immigrants), however have not found an answer. For the moment am sharing the links I've come across, which you may find worth reading...
http://bma.org.uk/practical-support-at- ... imary-care
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/h ... d_dentists
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/aboutnhsse ... vices.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... o-nhs-care
Please also be aware of the guidelines that are given to ECO's below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... eral-vat015. VAT1.5 Frequency and duration of visits
There is no restriction on the number of visits a person may make to the UK nor any requirement that a specified time must elapse between successive visits. However, the Immigration Rules state that the applicant must show that they do not intend to live in the UK for extended periods through frequent and successive visits. An ECO must consider the reason for a series of visits with only brief intervals outside the UK between each visit. The ECO must consider the purpose of the visit against the time elapsed between visits and the duration of previous visits to the UK.
There is no Rule that states a visitor can only remain in the UK for 6 out of any 12 months, but an ECO must examine the pattern and frequency of visits to see that it does not amount to de facto residence...
I'd go for a standard 6 months and not risk losing the 5/10 year fee, I feel sure they will check given the current climate.Double V wrote:Thanks for sharing this.cs95tdg wrote:Unfortunately I don't know the answer to your question, but have done a search to try and understand what has been officially published on this subject in the past to understand what the actual fees should be both for the healthcare received and prescriptions (I.e. Prior to the latest & most recent news around healthcare for immigrants), however have not found an answer. For the moment am sharing the links I've come across, which you may find worth reading...
http://bma.org.uk/practical-support-at- ... imary-care
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/h ... d_dentists
http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/aboutnhsse ... vices.aspx
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... o-nhs-care
Please also be aware of the guidelines that are given to ECO's below...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... eral-vat015. VAT1.5 Frequency and duration of visits
There is no restriction on the number of visits a person may make to the UK nor any requirement that a specified time must elapse between successive visits. However, the Immigration Rules state that the applicant must show that they do not intend to live in the UK for extended periods through frequent and successive visits. An ECO must consider the reason for a series of visits with only brief intervals outside the UK between each visit. The ECO must consider the purpose of the visit against the time elapsed between visits and the duration of previous visits to the UK.
There is no Rule that states a visitor can only remain in the UK for 6 out of any 12 months, but an ECO must examine the pattern and frequency of visits to see that it does not amount to de facto residence...
Much appreciated.
Is there anything else I should consider as I am now applying her 10 years multi visit visa. Or shall I go with 5 years ?
Himanci wrote:from 24 April 2015 the visitor rules change and it may no longer be possible to apply for a longer than 6 months standard visitor visa - read the new Appendix V to the immigration rules:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _Rules.pdf
Casa wrote:This article may make the changes regarding visitor visas easier to understand.
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/new-imm ... d-kingdom/
Thanks.vinny wrote:If the fees are still active, then the options should be available.
Yeah I will keep a close eye on that.manci wrote:Wait for guidance to be published on or after 24 April