New Application: Can you use any period of 5 years in Uk?

[PeterLilith]

Hello everyone,

I tried to apply before and asked for help here too but gathering additional evidence and other time constrains prevented me from applying sooner. I want to finish this application by end of May the latest and when looking into it again, I noticed the new application.

For the most part I think it will make it easier for me to apply as it has sections it didn't have before and more options to input things I'd have to otherwise explain in a letter. I want to apply with my father, he will have it easier than me since he was employed all the time but I am relying on my dependance and age to have my residency confirmed.

To give you brief info; my father arrived to Uk in 2004 and was self-employed in the building industry from day one, until the recession and then started moving to full time employment elsewhere. I came to Uk in August 2005 and studied until 2013, my first job started in November 2013.

Since we didn't know I'd need CSI, my options are limited to being a depended child of my father before I was 21 and few years after. I would like to use the period between 2005 and 2011 to confirm my residency, I was 14 in August 2005 and turned 21 in September 2011.

What makes me unsure, and what I would like to check here, is if anyone has experience using years that are not the last 5 years from the date of application.

The reason I am asking is that one section makes it sound like you can apply and use past years, but then other section is more like "use this if you are now 21 or over", which I am.

Thank you for any help.

[rosebead]

You can by law use any 5 year window for PR confirmation, although before April 2006 someone who may have acquired Article 16 permanent residence could lose it if the EEA national took more than 2 years break from exercising Treaty rights before that date. If you wish to apply in the category of a descendant under 21, you will have to provide self-employment/employment proofs from your father for the relevant period and hopefully he still has them. Pages 111-112 of the EEA(PR) form lists the employment proofs that the Home Office like to see and pages 120-123 lists the self-employment proofs.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

Who exactly is the EU citizen in this situation?

[PeterLilith]

Thanks rosebead. My father does have all the documents, well now we do anyway, it took a while to get it all.

and we are both EU citizens.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

I am curious. Why bother applying for confirmation of your PR status if you are European? The only reason I can immediately think of is if you are Croatian or if you want to make a simpler application for Citizenship later.

[PeterLilith]

Well, as far as I know, you need this to be able to apply for citizenship, no? At least thats what they told me when I went to ask for help from council.

I wouldn't bother if I could just get citizenship without this, since that is what I am after.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

In general it is not needed.

Though the PR confirmation for EU citizens costs only £65 and so is cheap and easy to get out of the way now. If they reject your citizenship application saying you do not have PR then you may loose a larger application fee.

[PeterLilith]

Yeah that is half my reason for doing it, loosing £65 I can live with, loosing around £1,000 would be lot harder.