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old 3416 - Art producerstalk2ram.28 wrote:What was your original SOC and what was the new SOC for which you applied?
Well I do have experience in the field (more than 5 years). Their objection is that is not 'recent'. The company that wants to hire me is a Creative productions agency as well, and as I mentioned the set of technical skills paired with the creative flair is what set me apart. I am moving to a similar company but to role that requires web/multimedia skills. The approach however is of a creative vision.talk2ram.28 wrote:According to UKBA this is a drastic change in 'profession' which is very tough for them to approve unless you have compelling evidence.
From an outsider point of view you have changed from art,producer, director field to IT!!!
Thanks a lot for your reply Manci. Yes, the letter stated the option of Admin Review. It states that the time limit is 14 calendar days since the day I received the letter. The letter has 19 of June as the date of the decision, but I received the letter and signed acknowledging the delivery on June 24th. Should I assume that the 14 calendar days start on the 24th? Which date would be the deadline for me if that's the case?manci wrote:I think this may well be a case for asking for Administrative Review but it would be advisable to have professional assistance in formulating the request. Presumably the refusal letter included the AR option and gave a time limit.
see the guidance:dialectic wrote:Thanks a lot for your reply Manci. Yes, the letter stated the option of Admin Review. It states that the time limit is 14 calendar days since the day I received the letter. The letter has 19 of June as the date of the decision, but I received the letter and signed acknowledging the delivery on June 24th. Should I assume that the 14 calendar days start on the 24th? Which date would be the deadline for me if that's the case?manci wrote:I think this may well be a case for asking for Administrative Review but it would be advisable to have professional assistance in formulating the request. Presumably the refusal letter included the AR option and gave a time limit.
I would also like to know whether anyone has gone through similar circumstances and what the outcome could be. I will try to find assistance soon and do my best to sort it out.
Thanks again
read para 39 in the T2 policy guide and when you apply address the genuine vacancy point in a covering letter and send documents in supportVandu Murugan wrote:Hi Manci,
I'm also in the same situation. But I have not applied still. Planning to apply soon. My present designation is under SOC 3545 but I need to change to SOC 2139. Is this dramatic change in occupation according to UKBA? I have previous experience under SOC code 2139. What should I do now? I need to change my occupation. Please help me. I do not want to get rejected. What are the steps do I need to take in order to get succeed.
Thanks
Vandu
I am planning on submitting a request for AR using professional help. A solicitor has seen my mark/grades/notes transcripts and Visual Arts qualification from Uni where the Multimedia subjects are mentioned ( everything translated to english by an official translator). He has also seen work samples, including personal projects and unpaid work experience that I undertook both as a student and during my time as a tier 2 sponsored arts producer. I have constantly looked for a Web/Multimedia job using these samples. I certainly showed these samples to my prospective employer and also did a trial in order to have my skills assessed. The solicitor said that it would have been a good idea to send my University transcripts and work samples on my initial application, but I didn't as it was not a requirement.manci wrote:I think this may well be a case for asking for Administrative Review but it would be advisable to have professional assistance in formulating the request. Presumably the refusal letter included the AR option and gave a time limit.
dialectic wrote:
I am also scared that if I mention that I have been keeping my skills up to date with personal projects, unpaid work, internships and so on would raise an issue of me being in breach of immigration rules during my time as a producer by engaging on work as a web/multimedia designer even if it is unpaid.
keep in mind that the rules don't allow any work besides the sponsored employment except as described in paras 227 and 228 of the T2 policy guidance:
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=tier+2+policy
I am afraid that AR is done online and even if I mention this I won't be able to send my transcripts and work samples/links to work as an evidence.
if you cannot submit documents describe them in detail. If UKVI want to see them they'll ask. You are given an opportunity to set out why you think a mistake was made by UKVI. Hope your solicitor will make out a good case for overturning the decision.
manci wrote:dialectic wrote:
I am also scared that if I mention that I have been keeping my skills up to date with personal projects, unpaid work, internships and so on would raise an issue of me being in breach of immigration rules during my time as a producer by engaging on work as a web/multimedia designer even if it is unpaid.
keep in mind that the rules don't allow any work besides the sponsored employment except as described in paras 227 and 228 of the T2 policy guidance:
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=tier+2+policy
I am afraid that AR is done online and even if I mention this I won't be able to send my transcripts and work samples/links to work as an evidence.
if you cannot submit documents describe them in detail. If UKVI want to see them they'll ask. You are given an opportunity to set out why you think a mistake was made by UKVI. Hope your solicitor will make out a good case for overturning the decision.
manci wrote:@dialectic
As you haven't received the curtailment letter yet you will have a min. of 60 days leave left.
Only you can assess the situation within the company but if time is critical a new application with a new CoS and a set of new supporting documents would probably be quicker if you use the priority service. The case is not straightforward therefore I don't think it would be suitable for the same-day premium service. In any case, you would be well advised to use a competent solicitor to make out a case in a covering letter that, hopefully, will result in a grant of leave and not a refusal.
@mancimanci wrote:@dialectic
As you haven't received the curtailment letter yet you will have a min. of 60 days leave left.
Only you can assess the situation within the company but if time is critical a new application with a new CoS and a set of new supporting documents would probably be quicker if you use the priority service. The case is not straightforward therefore I don't think it wouldn't be suitable for the same-day premium service. In any case, you would be well advised to use a competent solicitor to make out a case in a covering letter that, hopefully, will result in a grant of leave and not a refusal.
the guidance is here:dialectic wrote:Quick question
Am I allowed to submit an admin review and make a fresh application with that admin review pending?
Do I need to withdraw the admin review before making a new application?
Is there any info on the guidance regarding this? Can you point that to me?
Thanks