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If you can get a direct Flight yes you can move to Northern Ireland.Lynette wrote:Thank you Archigabe for replying. Can we move directly to Northern Ireland from South Africa or do we have to go via the UK/London. If so, please tell me what procedures I need to follow as the non EEA member. This EEA Family Permit for the Spouse which is obtained from the British Embassy here in SA; what does this involve ! Are they difficult to obtain and what paper work do I need to produce … Many thks again.
Lynette
how long ago did you move to Ireland?Other than that, though, they can't refuse your right to seek employment as long as you're married to an EU citizen.
Absolutely not true, which is why we've had members on here who were denied permission to remain in Ireland based on not having lived in another member state move to Northern Ireland. Essentially all that needs to be proved is that the non-EU person is in fact a family member of an EU citizen. This is usually done at the ebmassy before moving to the UK and the non-EU spouse can take up employment the day they arrive, no need to register with the police and no need for any work permits. Then once in the UK on a family permit (obtained at the embassy before arriving), you apply for a residence card that is valid for 5 years. A very easy and painless process.I can imagine that Northern Ireland has some more restrictive rules
kazana wrote:Hi Lynette,
I've got some good news for you:
I'm German, and my wife is South African. We had absolutely no problem moving to Ireland together (the Republic that is). We even got here without a job, visum or whatever - neither of us.
Since I'm an EU national, my wife was able to get an unlimited work visa without much hassle. Sure, we had to get it at the GNIB (g..something national immigration board), but that was no problem at all.
Only thing is, that as South African you need to renew your working visa every year, and that can be quite frustrating, sitting in the waiting room every time again.
Other than that, though, they can't refuse your right to seek employment as long as you're married to an EU citizen.
Usually, there's no need to worry about it. As long as both of you can afford the stay until you find a job, you'll be perfectly fine. As I've said before, we moved to Dublin with nothing but some money, our passports and our marriage certificate and we're both settled in Dubs now.
I can imagine that Northern Ireland has some more restrictive rules, especially since neither of you have an UK residency permit by default, unlike the laws governing EU countries, where no EU citizen (and his/her spouse) may be refused to stay.
Either way, good luck to both of you, and if you need any more information or assistance, don't hesitate to contact us through this board.
Greetz,
Brendon
Correct.archigabe wrote: Kazana, you are giving out information which is completely out of date and may have been only relevant a few years ago. Unless the couple had been living in another E.U state before moving to Ireland they will be treated as complete 'pariahs and undesirables' by the Irish Government.
Holy sh!t!!! Crap, I guess I'll have to start carrying my passport lol.And strangely enough, the Garda stopped the bus I was on at the border two weeks ago (belfast - dublin) and checked eveyone's documents..
yankeegirl wrote:Hi dub,
Yes, once married, your wife will be allowed to reside in Northern Ireland with you. She will need to apply for an EEA family permit. This is valid for 6 months and it allows her to work. Once in Northern Ireland she should apply for a 5 year residence card. My husband is also Irish (from Dublin) and this was the route I used to move to Derry.
What country is your wife from? Technically, if she would ordinarily require a visa to visit Ireland (Republic) I think (not positive though)she should apply for a visit visa, however as you know the border is wide open. I'm back and forth between the two quite often and have never once on over 3 years been asked by anyone for my passport.
If you want to then move to the Republic under EU regulations via the Surinder Singh rule, then a minimum of 6 months residence in Northern Ireland I think before moving to ROI. However, you could simply apply to have her move there as the spouse of an Irish citizen. Try doing a search on the forum, I'm not sure of the exact procedure of applying for an Irish visa as the spouse of an Irish citizen.
Jollyrancher, You wouldn't be eligible to live in the UK unless your wife is living here with you. The family permit is granted based on being the family member of an EU citizen and the EU citizen exercising a treaty right in the UK.Im an American married to a German citizen. Were both in USA but I want to live and work in UK for some time. She wants to stay in USA. Does she have to physically accompany me to the UK for the EEA Family Permit to be valid upon arrival in UK? I plan to stay with friends in UK.