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Alma,almaprice33 wrote:hello
im planning to apply for British citizenship soon but the problem is my biometric still in my maiden name the same name in my passport and my passport just expired last 1st of June 2015.Do i need to renew my passport before i can change my name in my biometric?i really wanted to use my married name to put in my certificate and in my british passport in the future. Please i really need some advice so that we proceed the application .
many thanks,
Alma
The difficulty my wife encountered is the Passport Office objected to a current foreign passport in maiden name even though naturalisation was done successfully (by HO!) in her married name;jpk wrote:...
Home Office lady was quite relaxed, if and when the application is successful the certificate will be in her married name. I don't see why the passport application will be problematic as you have to attend an interview to double check the identity so as long as you produce all the documents on the name change, especially the citizenship certificate, everything should be fine.
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Ha! That is great to know, thank you for the heads up. They do know how to make things more difficult!noajthan wrote:The difficulty my wife encountered is the Passport Office objected to a current foreign passport in maiden name even though naturalisation was done successfully (by HO!) in her married name;jpk wrote:...
Home Office lady was quite relaxed, if and when the application is successful the certificate will be in her married name. I don't see why the passport application will be problematic as you have to attend an interview to double check the identity so as long as you produce all the documents on the name change, especially the citizenship certificate, everything should be fine.
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(all was backed up by same foreign passport plus marriage certificate).
So the passport office blocked the British passport and didn't call her to interview until the name difference was resolved.
- it took 4 months of stress and confusion and delay.
At the interview it was not even discussed, so the interview is not really the opportunity to sort these matters out.
In our experience, you need the passport & other documents in order well ahead of that.
That was one option but we didn't take that path.jpk wrote:Ha! That is great to know, thank you for the heads up. They do know how to make things more difficult!noajthan wrote:The difficulty my wife encountered is the Passport Office objected to a current foreign passport in maiden name even though naturalisation was done successfully (by HO!) in her married name;
(all was backed up by same foreign passport plus marriage certificate).
So the passport office blocked the British passport and didn't call her to interview until the name difference was resolved.
- it took 4 months of stress and confusion and delay.
At the interview it was not even discussed, so the interview is not really the opportunity to sort these matters out.
In our experience, you need the passport & other documents in order well ahead of that.
So what did you have to do to sort it out? change the foreign passport with the new name then apply for the British passport?
Interesting update, just called the HMPO helpline and explained the situation, 'non British passport still valid in maiden name, citizenship certificate in married name, first British passport application etc'. She was very clear that it is not going to be a problem. I will call them again and get an advice from a different person just to make sure, but I will be very disappointed to put it nicely if they reject/delay giving same reason as you got.noajthan wrote:That was one option but we didn't take that path.jpk wrote:Ha! That is great to know, thank you for the heads up. They do know how to make things more difficult!noajthan wrote:The difficulty my wife encountered is the Passport Office objected to a current foreign passport in maiden name even though naturalisation was done successfully (by HO!) in her married name;
(all was backed up by same foreign passport plus marriage certificate).
So the passport office blocked the British passport and didn't call her to interview until the name difference was resolved.
- it took 4 months of stress and confusion and delay.
At the interview it was not even discussed, so the interview is not really the opportunity to sort these matters out.
In our experience, you need the passport & other documents in order well ahead of that.
So what did you have to do to sort it out? change the foreign passport with the new name then apply for the British passport?
In our case we had to cancel my wife's passport and provide a letter from her embassy to confirm it had been cancelled; secondly, to confirm that it was no longer valid (& that she was no longer a citizen of her country).
This was in fact always the case since, as a Filipino, the act of acquiring UK citizenship had cancelled out my wife's Philippine citizenship & her passport (i.e. under their laws).
Our mistake was to innocently assume the HO would know this & process the passport application accordingly.
However HO would not accept my say-so on all this & they would not accept copies of the relevant Philippine legislation either.
We had to discover the new UK policy, (as initially the Passport office would not admit to us there was one), then figure out what to do, then approach the embassy and persuade them to produce the (for them) non-standard letter.
The HO legal department then provided an incorrect legal interpretation of Philippine law to their caseworkers which confused maters further (& which I had to argue against and correct).
End to end it all took around 4 months to do.
It may be the helpline hasn't got the memo yet:jpk wrote:Interesting update, just called the HMPO helpline and explained the situation, 'non British passport still valid in maiden name, citizenship certificate in married name, first British passport application etc'. She was very clear that it is not going to be a problem. I will call them again and get an advice from a different person just to make sure, but I will be very disappointed to put it nicely if they reject/delay giving same reason as you got.
Thank you again, useful link. I have written to the Passport Office for clarification so we have something in writing.noajthan wrote:
It may be the helpline hasn't got the memo yet:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/crac ... -detection
Yes good question - the policy needs fully testing & challenging really.jpk wrote:Thank you again, useful link. I have written to the Passport Office for clarification so we have something in writing.
If my wife's home country and the UK allows dual nationalities then how can HMPO control the passport issued by another country?
I guess as clear as I can get, "Once the Citizenship is approved through the married name, this will count as official name change so the current non British passport should be changed to the new name".noajthan wrote:
Hope you get a clear answer from Passport Office.