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we are not overstayer as we submitted all the applications within the deadline.sushdmehta wrote:Do remember that you are an overstayer (since March 2015?).
3C should work unless we are not going to JR.secret.simon wrote:@sushdmehta, I am a bit hazy on the workings, but would Section 3C not cover the period while the OP applied to First-Tier Tribunal and the Upper Tier Tribunal even though he got a refusal from both?
What does it mean. Can't we go for JR or fresh application? in the last letter from UT, no guidance has been given to us regarding what action to take.Princess of Ammi wrote:you were not overstayer have now been since dismissal of your permission to appeal with Upper tribunal.
when your last permission to appeal was refused?aseefahmed wrote:What's about if i go For JR. and if they refuse me again in JR, can i go for Fresh application.
Yes.secret.simon wrote:@sushdmehta, I am a bit hazy on the workings, but would Section 3C not cover the period while the OP applied to First-Tier Tribunal and the Upper Tier Tribunal even though he got a refusal from both?sushdmehta wrote:Do remember that you are an overstayer (since March 2015?).
"Permission to appeal" is not same as allowing or disallowing an appeal. It is not clear from OP's posts as to whether Upper Tribunal heard the appeal or not. If First-Tier tribunal refused permission to appeal (further) then how did the Upper Tribunal come into the picture?aseefahmed wrote: we send another appeal request to 1st tribunal followed by upper tribunal. in both case, it has been refused saying "permission to appeal is refused"
after first tribunal refused the appeal , we applied to UT to reconsider it for hearing.sushdmehta wrote:"Permission to appeal" is not same as allowing or disallowing an appeal. It is not clear from OP's posts as to whether Upper Tribunal heard the appeal or not. If First-Tier tribunal refused permission to appeal (further) then how did the Upper Tribunal come into the picture?aseefahmed wrote: we send another appeal request to 1st tribunal followed by upper tribunal. in both case, it has been refused saying "permission to appeal is refused"
OP needs to clarify the sequence of appeal progress in his case.
As Zee Ali has mentioned above, your section 3C leave ceased the day UT refused your permission to appeal. You have been an overstayer after that day.aseefahmed wrote:after first tribunal refused the appeal , we applied to UT to reconsider it for hearing.
Can you please tell me within how many days i have to apply for JR. thank you in advanced.sushdmehta wrote:As Zee Ali has mentioned above, your section 3C leave ceased the day UT refused your permission to appeal. You have been an overstayer after that day.aseefahmed wrote:after first tribunal refused the appeal , we applied to UT to reconsider it for hearing.