- FAQ
- Login
- Register
- Call Workpermit.com for a paid service +44 (0)344-991-9222
Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board
ESC
Welcome to immigrationboards.com!
Moderators: Casa, Amber, archigabe, batleykhan, ca.funke, ChetanOjha, EUsmileWEallsmile, JAJ, John, Obie, push, geriatrix, vinny, CR001, zimba, meself2
DanChak, do you have any sources that you can travel to the UK with an just an EU1 using SS?DanChak wrote:An EU1 card has a lot of advantages if you are patient enough to get it.
Your parents do not have to apply a visa called EEA family permit to move to the UK
They can travel to all Schengen countries without applying for a visa if accompanied by you.
st2447 wrote:DanChak, do you have any sources that you can travel to the UK with an just an EU1 using SS?DanChak wrote:An EU1 card has a lot of advantages if you are patient enough to get it.
Your parents do not have to apply a visa called EEA family permit to move to the UK
They can travel to all Schengen countries without applying for a visa if accompanied by you.
Im asking because I know a couple who got refused admittance to the UK under regulation 9 recently who only presented their irish EU1 card and passports. I think you have a good chance if you bring all your documents you applied for a EU1 with you.
Hi St244,
I am familiar with the 'service provider' that you mention.
If you feel you are unable to find a property and job then i'd say possibly they are an option to consider , otherwise your free to ask for help on here.
st2447 wrote:I've created this thread so I can answer any questions people may have who are considering using Surinder Singh to bring their families over to the UK but are worried about the new 'center of life' rules. This forum contained most of the information that helped with my success.
I'm a British citizen and even though my salary was enough for me to apply for a Settlement visa for my Pakistani wife ,I know there was up to 6 month wait for the visa as there was a backlog on settlement cases and I had read a lot of stories that people were being refused for minor mistakes.
I decided that it would be quicker and more interesting to use the Surinder Singh method to get to the UK. I thought of the 3 months in another EU country as a Honeymoon / Holiday.
Since I don't consider myself a great story teller, I’ll just list the steps I took.
1. I chose to apply for an Ireland Directive 2004/38/EC Visa due to Ireland’s proximity and shared language/culture to the UK (link to visa cover letter). I applied for an accompany EU spouse visa in late December 2013 and was granted the Visa in mid-January 2014. I flew to Ireland with my wife on the 27th of January 2014. At the airport my wife was given a 90 days stamp on her passport and explained if we wished to stay longer we need to apply for a EU1 card.
2. On arrival in Dublin I stayed in a hotel while I tried to find some rented accommodation. It took around a week to find a place. Daft.ie is a good place to start. I had some difficulties as people were reluctant to rent out to someone without a previous landlords reference. The rent in Dublin was around 500 euro for a 1 bedroom flat so I looked further out and found a house to rent in Co Laois for 600 a month. I signed a 6 month tenancy agreement, the landlord was in the process of selling his property so I was lucky it sold in 4 months and I was able to save on 2 months rent.
3. I moved into the rented house on the 3rd of February 2014. The landlord switched over the Gas and Electric bills to my wife’s and my name. I also asked my landlord to register me and my wife as tenants with the PRTB on the property.
4. We applied for a PPS number at the local Social Welfare Branch Office. Our joint tenancy agreement and passports were sufficient. It took some convincing and standing our ground for them to agree to issue my wife a PPS number, due to her being non EEA. They made a few phone calls and finally agreed to accept her application. Our PPS numbers arrived through the post a few days later.
5. We signed up for Sky TV, landline and broadband on the 8th of February. They don’t do a credit check, just need to pay 50 Euro on any Credit/Debit Card (I used my UK card).
7. Applied for a joint AIB bank account on the 12th of February. Used PPS no, passports and tenancy agreement as ID.
8. I decided to go self-employed, offering various computer services so I applied for a business bank account. Once that was open, I registered for Income Tax with the Revenue and created a website.
9. I registered a business name with the CRO, in the name of my computer services related business website.
10. I registered me and my wife with the local doctor, I requested a letter from the doctor confirming my registration.
11. I exchanged my UK driving license for an Irish license. It’s very easy to do and I assume it helps with proving that you transferred your center of life.
12. I paid for my business expenses with by business debit card and tried to use my personal account as much as possible instead of paying cash for bills and shopping. I also registered with the local library.
13.. Once I received my PRTB registration letter and I had 2 months of invoices, I applied for a EU1 Ireland residence card for my wife in April. I sent our passports, PPS letters, bank statements, work invoices, tax, PTRB, and business registration documents. I received all the documents back in around a week (before the 90 days were up on her passport stamp) and a letter to take to the Guarda (police) for a temp Stamp 4.
14. The Guarda give us an appointment in a few weeks (for the end of April). They issued my wife a 6 month Temporary stamp 4 which extended our permission to stay in Ireland for 6 months whist the EU1 was being decided.
15. I obtained a reentry visa from the INIS in Dublin (free of charge) in case I had difficulty in entering the UK so we could reenter Ireland as opposed to her being sent back to Pakistan from the UK.
16. On the 7th of May we drove to Belfast Airport (UK). I took with me all the documents that I had sent for the EU1 and a print outs of Directive 2004/38/EC , the immigration act with relevant parts highlighted and a FOI request and email confirming that a Family Permit is not required when travelling from Ireland as it is part of the Common Travel Area.
15. On Arrival at Manchester airport, I couldn't find anyone to request a 1A stamp so we headed home in England.
16. I tried to open a bank account for my wife but I had difficulty proving her status here so I applied for an EEA2 card on the 8th of June. I included exactly the same documents I had sent for the EU1 card in Ireland including the doctor’s letter and a copy of my Ireland driving license and library card. I did not include a cover letter though I did include a special delivery SAE.
18. I received a COA with the right to work on the 19th of June which helped me register her with the NHS, open a bank account and obtain a NI number.
19. I had redirected our mail from Ireland to the UK and had not got a reply on our EU1 Application yet so I thought I’d forget about hearing back from the Home Office regarding the UK Residence card until the 6 months were up.
20. I thought I had a slim chance as I has only lived in Ireland for 3 months and a week and with the Center of Life changes to regulation 9 but I was pleasantly surprised when I received my documents back including my wife’s residency card sticker on her passport on the 30th of July.
I have to thank God, the forum members and mods. I wouldn't have had a clue about what I was doing if I didn’t spend time reading the questions from member and replies from the mods. If anyone has any questions I’ll do my best to answer.
Does anyone have the contact details for this "Service Provider"? If so, could someone please pm me.Thanks.mak35 wrote:Hi St244,
I am familiar with the 'service provider' that you mention.
If you feel you are unable to find a property and job then i'd say possibly they are an option to consider , otherwise your free to ask for help on here.
With regards to the 'service provider' I can see some banners going on this website with 'Immigration Assistance Services'. Is this what you and voilet26 are referring to?
Has anyone used their services before and know if they are a credible resource?
hsmpguy1234 wrote:Asking again as there was no response ...
Dear st2447,
Thanks for sharing your experience and then having the patience to answer the basic questions like mine.
In your cover letter you said:
I have attached flight confirmation that I will be travelling to Dublin with my spouse to satisfy section 4.5 of the visa guidelines
Did you buy tickets from Pakistan, before getting your visa, and attached those with your application?
Hi, yes I did
Also, did you book any accommodation before applying for visa?
No, I didn't. I just entered N/A in all the fields
As the application form asks for Contact/Host/Accommodation details. I am assuming that this is required for Visit visa applications, but ... still ... just in case ...
Regards,
used this route and guidelines for my non eea husband and he finally got his 5 years RC. Thanks to St2447 and this forum. Loads of help and infomation.maaberglady45 wrote:Thats really fast.
You were lucky to get 90 days stamp for your wife, Am a British national and recently arrived with my non EEA husband but he was only given 30 days stamp in his passport
Very unfair for them to do that to us...
Means I ve to do loads of running around within one month
@monglemongle wrote:@Abs566 - Good to read about your progress. Did you solicitor mention anything about why it took so long. Maybe i am wrong, but i thought EEA family visa had to be done on accelerated basis within 4 weeks? Was this in the Indian consulate?Abs566 wrote:@Danchak
Sorry to have not posted an update. Yes my parents did receive their visa within 10 weeks on 29/5/15. They are flying to Dublin in 2 weeks.
st2447 wrote:I've created this thread so I can answer any questions people may have who are considering using Surinder Singh to bring their families over to the UK but are worried about the new 'center of life' rules. This forum contained most of the information that helped with my success.
I'm a British citizen and even though my salary was enough for me to apply for a Settlement visa for my Pakistani wife ,I know there was up to 6 month wait for the visa as there was a backlog on settlement cases and I had read a lot of stories that people were being refused for minor mistakes.
I decided that it would be quicker and more interesting to use the Surinder Singh method to get to the UK. I thought of the 3 months in another EU country as a Honeymoon / Holiday.
Since I don't consider myself a great story teller, I’ll just list the steps I took.
1. I chose to apply for an Ireland Directive 2004/38/EC Visa due to Ireland’s proximity and shared language/culture to the UK (link to visa cover letter). I applied for an accompany EU spouse visa in late December 2013 and was granted the Visa in mid-January 2014. I flew to Ireland with my wife on the 27th of January 2014. At the airport my wife was given a 90 days stamp on her passport and explained if we wished to stay longer we need to apply for a EU1 card.
2. On arrival in Dublin I stayed in a hotel while I tried to find some rented accommodation. It took around a week to find a place. Daft.ie is a good place to start. I had some difficulties as people were reluctant to rent out to someone without a previous landlords reference. The rent in Dublin was around 500 euro for a 1 bedroom flat so I looked further out and found a house to rent in Co Laois for 600 a month. I signed a 6 month tenancy agreement, the landlord was in the process of selling his property so I was lucky it sold in 4 months and I was able to save on 2 months rent.
3. I moved into the rented house on the 3rd of February 2014. The landlord switched over the Gas and Electric bills to my wife’s and my name. I also asked my landlord to register me and my wife as tenants with the PRTB on the property.
4. We applied for a PPS number at the local Social Welfare Branch Office. Our joint tenancy agreement and passports were sufficient. It took some convincing and standing our ground for them to agree to issue my wife a PPS number, due to her being non EEA. They made a few phone calls and finally agreed to accept her application. Our PPS numbers arrived through the post a few days later.
5. We signed up for Sky TV, landline and broadband on the 8th of February. They don’t do a credit check, just need to pay 50 Euro on any Credit/Debit Card (I used my UK card).
7. Applied for a joint AIB bank account on the 12th of February. Used PPS no, passports and tenancy agreement as ID.
8. I decided to go self-employed, offering various computer services so I applied for a business bank account. Once that was open, I registered for Income Tax with the Revenue and created a website.
9. I registered a business name with the CRO, in the name of my computer services related business website.
10. I registered me and my wife with the local doctor, I requested a letter from the doctor confirming my registration.
11. I exchanged my UK driving license for an Irish license. It’s very easy to do and I assume it helps with proving that you transferred your center of life.
12. I paid for my business expenses with by business debit card and tried to use my personal account as much as possible instead of paying cash for bills and shopping. I also registered with the local library.
13.. Once I received my PRTB registration letter and I had 2 months of invoices, I applied for a EU1 Ireland residence card for my wife in April. I sent our passports, PPS letters, bank statements, work invoices, tax, PTRB, and business registration documents. I received all the documents back in around a week (before the 90 days were up on her passport stamp) and a letter to take to the Guarda (police) for a temp Stamp 4.
14. The Guarda give us an appointment in a few weeks (for the end of April). They issued my wife a 6 month Temporary stamp 4 which extended our permission to stay in Ireland for 6 months whist the EU1 was being decided.
15. I obtained a reentry visa from the INIS in Dublin (free of charge) in case I had difficulty in entering the UK so we could reenter Ireland as opposed to her being sent back to Pakistan from the UK.
16. On the 7th of May we drove to Belfast Airport (UK). I took with me all the documents that I had sent for the EU1 and a print outs of Directive 2004/38/EC , the immigration act with relevant parts highlighted and a FOI request and email confirming that a Family Permit is not required when travelling from Ireland as it is part of the Common Travel Area.
15. On Arrival at Manchester airport, I couldn't find anyone to request a 1A stamp so we headed home in England.
16. I tried to open a bank account for my wife but I had difficulty proving her status here so I applied for an EEA2 card on the 8th of June. I included exactly the same documents I had sent for the EU1 card in Ireland including the doctor’s letter and a copy of my Ireland driving license and library card. I did not include a cover letter though I did include a special delivery SAE.
18. I received a COA with the right to work on the 19th of June which helped me register her with the NHS, open a bank account and obtain a NI number.
19. I had redirected our mail from Ireland to the UK and had not got a reply on our EU1 Application yet so I thought I’d forget about hearing back from the Home Office regarding the UK Residence card until the 6 months were up.
20. I thought I had a slim chance as I has only lived in Ireland for 3 months and a week and with the Center of Life changes to regulation 9 but I was pleasantly surprised when I received my documents back including my wife’s residency card sticker on her passport on the 30th of July.
I have to thank God, the forum members and mods. I wouldn't have had a clue about what I was doing if I didn’t spend time reading the questions from member and replies from the mods. If anyone has any questions I’ll do my best to answer.
st2447 wrote:I've created this thread so I can answer any questions people may have who are considering using Surinder Singh to bring their families over to the UK but are worried about the new 'center of life' rules. This forum contained most of the information that helped with my success.
I'm a British citizen and even though my salary was enough for me to apply for a Settlement visa for my Pakistani wife ,I know there was up to 6 month wait for the visa as there was a backlog on settlement cases and I had read a lot of stories that people were being refused for minor mistakes.
I decided that it would be quicker and more interesting to use the Surinder Singh method to get to the UK. I thought of the 3 months in another EU country as a Honeymoon / Holiday.
Since I don't consider myself a great story teller, I’ll just list the steps I took.
1. I chose to apply for an Ireland Directive 2004/38/EC Visa due to Ireland’s proximity and shared language/culture to the UK (link to visa cover letter). I applied for an accompany EU spouse visa in late December 2013 and was granted the Visa in mid-January 2014. I flew to Ireland with my wife on the 27th of January 2014. At the airport my wife was given a 90 days stamp on her passport and explained if we wished to stay longer we need to apply for a EU1 card.
2. On arrival in Dublin I stayed in a hotel while I tried to find some rented accommodation. It took around a week to find a place. Daft.ie is a good place to start. I had some difficulties as people were reluctant to rent out to someone without a previous landlords reference. The rent in Dublin was around 500 euro for a 1 bedroom flat so I looked further out and found a house to rent in Co Laois for 600 a month. I signed a 6 month tenancy agreement, the landlord was in the process of selling his property so I was lucky it sold in 4 months and I was able to save on 2 months rent.
3. I moved into the rented house on the 3rd of February 2014. The landlord switched over the Gas and Electric bills to my wife’s and my name. I also asked my landlord to register me and my wife as tenants with the PRTB on the property.
4. We applied for a PPS number at the local Social Welfare Branch Office. Our joint tenancy agreement and passports were sufficient. It took some convincing and standing our ground for them to agree to issue my wife a PPS number, due to her being non EEA. They made a few phone calls and finally agreed to accept her application. Our PPS numbers arrived through the post a few days later.
5. We signed up for Sky TV, landline and broadband on the 8th of February. They don’t do a credit check, just need to pay 50 Euro on any Credit/Debit Card (I used my UK card).
7. Applied for a joint AIB bank account on the 12th of February. Used PPS no, passports and tenancy agreement as ID.
8. I decided to go self-employed, offering various computer services so I applied for a business bank account. Once that was open, I registered for Income Tax with the Revenue and created a website.
9. I registered a business name with the CRO, in the name of my computer services related business website.
10. I registered me and my wife with the local doctor, I requested a letter from the doctor confirming my registration.
11. I exchanged my UK driving license for an Irish license. It’s very easy to do and I assume it helps with proving that you transferred your center of life.
12. I paid for my business expenses with by business debit card and tried to use my personal account as much as possible instead of paying cash for bills and shopping. I also registered with the local library.
13.. Once I received my PRTB registration letter and I had 2 months of invoices, I applied for a EU1 Ireland residence card for my wife in April. I sent our passports, PPS letters, bank statements, work invoices, tax, PTRB, and business registration documents. I received all the documents back in around a week (before the 90 days were up on her passport stamp) and a letter to take to the Guarda (police) for a temp Stamp 4.
14. The Guarda give us an appointment in a few weeks (for the end of April). They issued my wife a 6 month Temporary stamp 4 which extended our permission to stay in Ireland for 6 months whist the EU1 was being decided.
15. I obtained a reentry visa from the INIS in Dublin (free of charge) in case I had difficulty in entering the UK so we could reenter Ireland as opposed to her being sent back to Pakistan from the UK.
16. On the 7th of May we drove to Belfast Airport (UK). I took with me all the documents that I had sent for the EU1 and a print outs of Directive 2004/38/EC , the immigration act with relevant parts highlighted and a FOI request and email confirming that a Family Permit is not required when travelling from Ireland as it is part of the Common Travel Area.
15. On Arrival at Manchester airport, I couldn't find anyone to request a 1A stamp so we headed home in England.
16. I tried to open a bank account for my wife but I had difficulty proving her status here so I applied for an EEA2 card on the 8th of June. I included exactly the same documents I had sent for the EU1 card in Ireland including the doctor’s letter and a copy of my Ireland driving license and library card. I did not include a cover letter though I did include a special delivery SAE.
18. I received a COA with the right to work on the 19th of June which helped me register her with the NHS, open a bank account and obtain a NI number.
19. I had redirected our mail from Ireland to the UK and had not got a reply on our EU1 Application yet so I thought I’d forget about hearing back from the Home Office regarding the UK Residence card until the 6 months were up.
20. I thought I had a slim chance as I has only lived in Ireland for 3 months and a week and with the Center of Life changes to regulation 9 but I was pleasantly surprised when I received my documents back including my wife’s residency card sticker on her passport on the 30th of July.
I have to thank God, the forum members and mods. I wouldn't have had a clue about what I was doing if I didn’t spend time reading the questions from member and replies from the mods. If anyone has any questions I’ll do my best to answer.