Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

[Forza_RC]

Good morning folks,

I wish everyone a great week and hope to receive more good news from the HO this week - fingers crossed

[Forza_RC]

Hi all,

has any non-EU citizen applied for PR after late March this year and received it? I have not heard any good news from non-EU citizens on their PR applications made late March and applications made after early April when biometrics introduced Anyone out there? Please share your stories & timelines with us...

[Forza_RC]

Hi Forza and other people waiting for more than 4 months!,
That really is crazy that you've been waiting for this length of time. Mine was a peculiar wait too.. because EU usually is just a month or two, so yeah there are anomalies.. I see also that Imran.. was waiting for 5 months with application at the beginniing of March, so my theory about having set aside a couple of people may well be true. Anyway, I really hope your wait and of course that of others will soon be over. I should have a look at another forum regarding appeals by EU. Will be interesting to find out about waits 2015. Anyway, I think this is pretty much my last post. I think that getting permament residency should be a lot easier and more efficient. The movement of people who have lived in a country and speak the language should be answered quickly, after all it is also of course an advantage for the UK to be getting new people who have already adapted to the culture. To wait for 5 months to get a residency document is too long and to then have to pay 1000 pounds to become naturalised is ridiculous. In Germany it costs 150 Euros as Eu and without intermediary steps of residence. Best of luck to everyone!

Hi clacar, I absolutely agree with what you have written above regarding the waiting times. I think it's the Britain's strict policy on immigration. But one thing I struggle to understand and frustrated is that why EU citizens' applications are considered / PRs issued in less than 2 months "normally" but non-EU ones are almost up to 5-6 months, in some cases even longer...non-eu applicants are usually sponsored by their eu family member / spouse - like in my case. And on top of this long waiting timeline there is no fast track or prime "paid" service (or in person application) which is offered in other visa categories - which would have made especially frequent business travellers lifes' a lot easier. Anyway we can't really do anything but just share the ideas with each other here. I hope HO staff read this forum and "get some feedback" on their poor services.

[Efe]

Hello,

I got married October 2008 with an Irish National and got my EEA Family permit April 2010. After that applied for EEA Residence for 5 years which is valid until October 2015.

I got seperated from my ex wife August 2012. Now we are in the court for divorce process and my solicitor told me that the case will be finalize in September or October. Obvisouly l will apply for EEA PR on my own right but what can l do if l do not get my decree absolute by that stage and still have to send my application. Can l still go ahead and send it and put a note that decree absolute on its way. Because l do not want to overstay for any reason.

My ex wife refuses to give me her last 5 years employment history. As far as l searched, this is one of the essential thing that you need to provide to the Home Office. Is there any way to get these documents by myself? If l ask them for my ex from HMRC, Is it possible?

I have all documents joints accounts and bills for first 2 years from the moment l came to UK to settle with my ex.

l have been working full time in the same place since Dec 2010.

I have kept all my bills, statements etc.

Is there any documentation list in my circumstances that l need to provide? Please advise that to me!

Could you please advise me on this matter?

Thanks to you all.

[liquidweb]

Hi Forza and other people waiting for more than 4 months!,
That really is crazy that you've been waiting for this length of time. Mine was a peculiar wait too.. because EU usually is just a month or two, so yeah there are anomalies.. I see also that Imran.. was waiting for 5 months with application at the beginniing of March, so my theory about having set aside a couple of people may well be true. Anyway, I really hope your wait and of course that of others will soon be over. I should have a look at another forum regarding appeals by EU. Will be interesting to find out about waits 2015. Anyway, I think this is pretty much my last post. I think that getting permament residency should be a lot easier and more efficient. The movement of people who have lived in a country and speak the language should be answered quickly, after all it is also of course an advantage for the UK to be getting new people who have already adapted to the culture. To wait for 5 months to get a residency document is too long and to then have to pay 1000 pounds to become naturalised is ridiculous. In Germany it costs 150 Euros as Eu and without intermediary steps of residence. Best of luck to everyone!

Hi clacar, I absolutely agree with what you have written above regarding the waiting times. I think it's the Britain's strict policy on immigration. But one thing I struggle to understand and frustrated is that why EU citizens' applications are considered / PRs issued in less than 2 months "normally" but non-EU ones are almost up to 5-6 months, in some cases even longer...non-eu applicants are usually sponsored by their eu family member / spouse - like in my case. And on top of this long waiting timeline there is no fast track or prime "paid" service (or in person application) which is offered in other visa categories - which would have made especially frequent business travellers lifes' a lot easier. Anyway we can't really do anything but just share the ideas with each other here. I hope HO staff read this forum and "get some feedback" on their poor services.

I have been told a secret. In order to get your PR in 2 months. Both you and your EEA partner should apply at the same time for PR. In some cases, it is not possible since EEA partner may be already holding a PR or BC. However, if you have this opportunity, then apply together and you will get it processed in 2 months along with the EEA partner.

[skips66]

I have been told a secret. In order to get your PR in 2 months. Both you and your EEA partner should apply at the same time for PR. In some cases, it is not possible since EEA partner may be already holding a PR or BC. However, if you have this opportunity, then apply together and you will get it processed in 2 months along with the EEA partner.[/quote]

Hi liquidweb
I like the sound of that idea! Is it possible to do this on the one EEA(PR) form or will we both have to fill in separate forms and include them in the one envelope with all the supporting documents?

[liquidweb]

Hello,

I got married October 2008 with an Irish National and got my EEA Family permit April 2010. After that applied for EEA Residence for 5 years which is valid until October 2015.

I got seperated from my ex wife August 2012. Now we are in the court for divorce process and my solicitor told me that the case will be finalize in September or October. Obvisouly l will apply for EEA PR on my own right but what can l do if l do not get my decree absolute by that stage and still have to send my application. Can l still go ahead and send it and put a note that decree absolute on its way. Because l do not want to overstay for any reason.

My ex wife refuses to give me her last 5 years employment history. As far as l searched, this is one of the essential thing that you need to provide to the Home Office. Is there any way to get these documents by myself? If l ask them for my ex from HMRC, Is it possible?

I have all documents joints accounts and bills for first 2 years from the moment l came to UK to settle with my ex.

l have been working full time in the same place since Dec 2010.

I have kept all my bills, statements etc.

Is there any documentation list in my circumstances that l need to provide? Please advise that to me!

Could you please advise me on this matter?

Thanks to you all.

That is a sad situation to be in. You needed to apply for ROR since you separated from her exactly after 2 years of living together. Secondly, you should understand that once you complete 5 years on residence permit, you are not an OVERSTAYER. You earn your permanent residence. Obviously, provided you were together with your wife for 2 years before separating. You need specialist legal advice and I think your situation can turn ugly very quickly if you are not careful. Hope you get someone experienced who has dealt with such situations in the past.

[liquidweb]

I have been told a secret. In order to get your PR in 2 months. Both you and your EEA partner should apply at the same time for PR. In some cases, it is not possible since EEA partner may be already holding a PR or BC. However, if you have this opportunity, then apply together and you will get it processed in 2 months along with the EEA partner.

Hi liquidweb
I like the sound of that idea! Is it possible to do this on the one EEA(PR) form or will we both have to fill in separate forms and include them in the one envelope with all the supporting documents?[/quote]

Hi Skips,

One EEA (PR) form that has to be filled in by the EEA applicant. So in essence, EEA partner is applying and he or she includes the non-EEA family member under section C. Family members included in your application . Good luck.

[Forza_RC]

Hello,

I got married October 2008 with an Irish National and got my EEA Family permit April 2010. After that applied for EEA Residence for 5 years which is valid until October 2015.

I got seperated from my ex wife August 2012. Now we are in the court for divorce process and my solicitor told me that the case will be finalize in September or October. Obvisouly l will apply for EEA PR on my own right but what can l do if l do not get my decree absolute by that stage and still have to send my application. Can l still go ahead and send it and put a note that decree absolute on its way. Because l do not want to overstay for any reason.

My ex wife refuses to give me her last 5 years employment history. As far as l searched, this is one of the essential thing that you need to provide to the Home Office. Is there any way to get these documents by myself? If l ask them for my ex from HMRC, Is it possible?

I have all documents joints accounts and bills for first 2 years from the moment l came to UK to settle with my ex.

l have been working full time in the same place since Dec 2010.

I have kept all my bills, statements etc.

Is there any documentation list in my circumstances that l need to provide? Please advise that to me!

Could you please advise me on this matter?

Thanks to you all.

Hi Efe, I am sorry to hear about what you have gone through. Do you have any proof or documents on your ex-wife's employment for the first two year (2010-2012)? It's good that you have some joint documents and bills for the first 2 years. Send all your documents with a well written & explanatory cover letter about 3-4 weeks before your residence expires. I doubt HMRC would provide your ex-wife's documents to you as HMRC is pretty strict on this kind of requests. Do you know her NI number?

[Efe]

Thanks for your post. Yes l know all her details, still have all the joints paid bills and statements from even the first application that l entered the country. Someone was lucky to get last 5 years employment history for his ex wife but l wonder where would it leave you? If you say that, l am not with her anymore. l think with a well explained letter, that would solve the problem. Obviously it depends on the case worker too. Why would they still ask for these documents? When they know well enough, you have nothing to do with her anymore but l am glad that l kept all of the documents, l will try my chance to get from HMRC but if not only waiting for decree absolute. If it does not come by September 15. l am gonna go ahead with the application and say that with a proof letter, it is still in the court and waiting for the decree absolute as soon as it arrives l will provide. l hope it works that way. I reckon it will.

[clacar]

Hi Forza and other people waiting for more than 4 months!,
That really is crazy that you've been waiting for this length of time. Mine was a peculiar wait too.. because EU usually is just a month or two, so yeah there are anomalies.. I see also that Imran.. was waiting for 5 months with application at the beginniing of March, so my theory about having set aside a couple of people may well be true. Anyway, I really hope your wait and of course that of others will soon be over. I should have a look at another forum regarding appeals by EU. Will be interesting to find out about waits 2015. Anyway, I think this is pretty much my last post. I think that getting permament residency should be a lot easier and more efficient. The movement of people who have lived in a country and speak the language should be answered quickly, after all it is also of course an advantage for the UK to be getting new people who have already adapted to the culture. To wait for 5 months to get a residency document is too long and to then have to pay 1000 pounds to become naturalised is ridiculous. In Germany it costs 150 Euros as Eu and without intermediary steps of residence. Best of luck to everyone!

Hi clacar, I absolutely agree with what you have written above regarding the waiting times. I think it's the Britain's strict policy on immigration. But one thing I struggle to understand and frustrated is that why EU citizens' applications are considered / PRs issued in less than 2 months "normally" but non-EU ones are almost up to 5-6 months, in some cases even longer...non-eu applicants are usually sponsored by their eu family member / spouse - like in my case. And on top of this long waiting timeline there is no fast track or prime "paid" service (or in person application) which is offered in other visa categories - which would have made especially frequent business travellers lifes' a lot easier. Anyway we can't really do anything but just share the ideas with each other here. I hope HO staff read this forum and "get some feedback" on their poor services.

Hi Forza,
Yep. Why should it take longer for non-EU? It's a question of having met the stipulations and if that is the case, there should be no discrepancy between EU and non-EU. I suppose there is a pact, long-standing, between EU members, so that is certainly an argument. But that is not the real point. It's an objective fact that people are offered residency regardless of EU or non-EU, so where does the improved service for EU come from? It's not fair, definitely. Above that and most importantly, how can it possibly take 5 months to answer a query? OK so there are more non-EU applications? I have no idea, but still you have to adapt to that, since after all it makes a difference for people's lives! and the plan is in place to reside, so why are they taking this amount of time - ok so economically you could say well it's the money. But people are paying for the application! You also say that there should be a paid service, which there isn't for non-EU, again not fair. Yes I noticed you travelled for work, HOW ANNOYING! Yep it would be a good idea with the quantity of text in this forum if a mass-mail could be sent to the members who then sign a petition for waiting times for visas, I mean let's get real here, 5 months is half a year and compared with other EU countries, it's a no-go situation. It's stange, in particular, that despite fact that you have given plenty of evidence, your application takes longer, I mean strange in the sense of purely subjective. The same was the case with my application as it became. There was no reason why mine should take longer, so again there should be a service when 3 months are over, because the waiting time has got silly. What- you can't contact them even by EMAIL? until after 6 months? What and you don't even know if your passport is still in one piece? Yep real issue again. So there definitely needs to be overhaul of this procedure! And that is a fact.

[Forza_RC]

Thanks for your post. Yes l know all her details, still have all the joints paid bills and statements from even the first application that l entered the country. Someone was lucky to get last 5 years employment history for his ex wife but l wonder where would it leave you? If you say that, l am not with her anymore. l think with a well explained letter, that would solve the problem. Obviously it depends on the case worker too. Why would they still ask for these documents? When they know well enough, you have nothing to do with her anymore but l am glad that l kept all of the documents, l will try my chance to get from HMRC but if not only waiting for decree absolute. If it does not come by September 15. l am gonna go ahead with the application and say that with a proof letter, it is still in the court and waiting for the decree absolute as soon as it arrives l will provide. l hope it works that way. I reckon it will.

If you have the relevant HMRC details on her employment then that's perfect because if she's unwilling to provide the papers to you then you can explain this in your cover letter and submit the NI number etc. to HO and then they can check and verify her 5 years employment (exercising treaty right period) - that's what they would do anyway even if you provide her 5 year's employment papers, P60s etc. I don't think you would have any issue with that. Good luck Efe and let us know how it goes with your timeline etc.

[sidcostas]

Hello everyone, i'm so curious if the Home office has already started issuing the new biome trio pr which was introduced o 6 of April.This wait just gets worse every day, I have wasted the whole summer stuck here which i think is so unfair because we work so hard but can't even go on holiday while probably most of the HO staff are on summer holiday. Forza I think everyone on this forum is hoping to hear good news from you, every day im checking the forum but it seems you still haven't heard back, I would like to ask you if you also sent EEA3 for your partner or just EEA4 for you. Someone mentioned in this forum that if we apply for EEA3 and EEA4 together it is more likely to receive it sooner but i really doubt this is the case. I have applied at the end of april and 3 months and half already passed. They have the power to speed it up if they wanted to just like they do with European applications.
Please share hear if anyone knows of any cases when someone received the new biometrics pr card.
Good luck to everyone.

[liquidweb]

Hello everyone, i'm so curious if the Home office has already started issuing the new biome trio pr which was introduced o 6 of April.This wait just gets worse every day, I have wasted the whole summer stuck here which i think is so unfair because we work so hard but can't even go on holiday while probably most of the HO staff are on summer holiday. Forza I think everyone on this forum is hoping to hear good news from you, every day im checking the forum but it seems you still haven't heard back, I would like to ask you if you also sent EEA3 for your partner or just EEA4 for you. Someone mentioned in this forum that if we apply for EEA3 and EEA4 together it is more likely to receive it sooner but i really doubt this is the case. I have applied at the end of april and 3 months and half already passed. They have the power to speed it up if they wanted to just like they do with European applications.
Please share hear if anyone knows of any cases when someone received the new biometrics pr card.
Good luck to everyone.

Hi Sid, it was me who mentioned if you apply together that your application gets processed quicker. It is the case and can be confirmed from HO also. Secondly, there is nothing called EEA3 or EEA4 any more. It is called EEA (PR) application. Your EEA partner needs to apply and you will have to be tagged along to the application to get it in 2 months flat. Else be prepared for a minimum 4 months wait since arrival of COA. Note it does not matter when you applied. Once your COA is generated, that is when your real timeline starts. On an average, I am observing four months since COA is granted for an answer from HO. Wish you good luck. When did you apply?

[aukro]

Hello guys!
I'm waiting for two months for any letter from home office.
I've just called and informed them that I haven't got a biometrics letter. I was given an email something like eurobiometrics@homeoffice.gov.co.uk to contact them for my biometrics letter. Tried to write an email but got reply that this email doesn't exist. Where to get correct address? They work till 17-00 can't contact them till tomorrow.

[Annebee]

It's sad that this long wait for non-eea applications is back. This time last year, most non-eea applications were being processed in 4 - 5 weeks . I can't work out what could have changed.i thought with the new application asking for more information should have helped improve processing times.

[Forza_RC]

Hello guys!
I'm waiting for two months for any letter from home office.
I've just called and informed them that I haven't got a biometrics letter. I was given an email something like eurobiometrics@homeoffice.gov.co.uk to contact them for my biometrics letter. Tried to write an email but got reply that this email doesn't exist. Where to get correct address? They work till 17-00 can't contact them till tomorrow.

Hello aukro, have not you even received an acknowledgement email from HO yet? 2 months and no letter at all! This is seriously unbelievable. Home Office must urgently improve their service standards.

[Annebee]

Hello guys!
I'm waiting for two months for any letter from home office.
I've just called and informed them that I haven't got a biometrics letter. I was given an email something like eurobiometrics@homeoffice.gov.co.uk to contact them for my biometrics letter. Tried to write an email but got reply that this email doesn't exist. Where to get correct address? They work till 17-00 can't contact them till tomorrow.

Hello aukro, have not you even received an acknowledgement email from HO yet? 2 months and no letter at all! This is seriously unbelievable. Home Office must urgently improve their service standards.

This is a joke. Did you check if the application fee has been withdrawn from the acc you provided?.the application acknowledgment doesn't always get sent via email if the payment had already been taken . You should have received acknowledgment via email or post by now. It usually get sent out same or next day the payment was Taken

[Forza_RC]

It's sad that this long wait for non-eea applications is back. This time last year, most non-eea applications were being processed in 4 - 5 weeks . I can't work out what could have changed.i thought with the new application asking for more information should have helped improve processing times.

Hello Annebee, I think Home Office have been too busy with transforming the old system to the new biometrics application! I cannot think any other reason at all. One can only expect a better and faster service this year compare to the previous years. However it's even getting worse!

[Forza_RC]

Hello everyone, i'm so curious if the Home office has already started issuing the new biome trio pr which was introduced o 6 of April.This wait just gets worse every day, I have wasted the whole summer stuck here which i think is so unfair because we work so hard but can't even go on holiday while probably most of the HO staff are on summer holiday. Forza I think everyone on this forum is hoping to hear good news from you, every day im checking the forum but it seems you still haven't heard back, I would like to ask you if you also sent EEA3 for your partner or just EEA4 for you. Someone mentioned in this forum that if we apply for EEA3 and EEA4 together it is more likely to receive it sooner but i really doubt this is the case. I have applied at the end of april and 3 months and half already passed. They have the power to speed it up if they wanted to just like they do with European applications.
Please share hear if anyone knows of any cases when someone received the new biometrics pr card.
Good luck to everyone.

Hello sidcostas, yep whole summer is almost gone and no news for me too even though my case is one of the most straightforward ones I have been waiting now for about 4,5 months. No, we did not think about posting PR application for my wife (EU citizen) too - I wish we had done it (we simply did not think about that) as I seriously believe joint applications are processed a lot faster...

I am very much hoping to receive my PR next or the following week the latest as my cousin is getting married in abroad and also I have a very important business travel coming up in early September. I will definitely post here any update I have - probably members of this topic will be the first to know once I have received my PR

[Indianlonly]

I'm same. Sent my application last week and no email acknowledge received or anything but money was taken yesterday from my account. That's weird. When I sent my first application and my ror I received acknowledge mail next day but 7 working days no acknowledge or letter

[aukro]

Hello aukro, have not you even received an acknowledgement email from HO yet? 2 months and no letter at all! This is seriously unbelievable. Home Office must urgently improve their service standards.

Hiya Forza_RC, I haven't got anything from HO, I have called them about a week ago and been told to wait 8 weeks, today I called them after work and it was 16-50 and been told the wrong email address to contact biometrics office, ridiculous.

[aukro]

This is a joke. Did you check if the application fee has been withdrawn from the acc you provided?.the applicareference actionsdgment doesn't always get sent via email if the payment had already been taken . You should have received acknowledgment via email or post by now. It usually get sent out same or next day the payment was Taken

Yes, Annebee, money been taken in couple of days after HO got my application according to special deliivery tracking. I believe, by reference EURO, 65 pounds been taken by HO

[Forza_RC]

Hello aukro, have not you even received an acknowledgement email from HO yet? 2 months and no letter at all! This is seriously unbelievable. Home Office must urgently improve their service standards.

Hiya Forza_RC, I haven't got anything from HO, I have called them about a week ago and been told to wait 8 weeks, today I called them after work and it was 16-50 and been told the wrong email address to contact biometrics office, ridiculous.

Were you told to wait 8 weeks for COA?

[Forza_RC]

Hiii everyone
Finally sent my application today, filled it myself.
My solicitor asked me £800 and I can't efford it
So filled it myself
My application based ror so I have sent same documents my ror + my excersise treaty right since divorce till present + cover letter explain my circumstances
I know I have small chance to get it but by the time of the outcome I might efford a solicitor
Let's hope for better
My time line as bellow
8 August sent my application first class
Acknowledge letter waiting for...

Hi Indianlonly, I just saw your above post. You did not pay for a solicitor, did you? I hope you did not
It's a WASTE OF MONEY! £800? Seriously Even if it was £1 it's still waste of money.

Why would anyone pay that large amount of money for PR application to a solicitor or to so-called legal advisors? Anyone can do it themselves as long as they are capable of collecting their own PR application documents such as P60s, council tax letters, bank statements, pay slips etc. for the 5 years period.

If anyone has got any questions about the application process and PR application form sections there are plenty of topics on this forum (and on the similar ones - just ask to Mr. Google) that would answer those questions.