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Av, I think unskilled migrants would still flock here even if other EU countries lift restrictions now. Individuals on the minimum wage can definitely save more in the UK than in other EU countries due to the strong pound, cost of food & other essentials being marginally cheaper when compared to parts of the continent(relative to one's earnings), good availability of cheap & crappy accomodation (even if it means cramming 10 people into a 3 bed terrace) & the presence of already well established immigrant communities throughout the countryavjones wrote:I think the trouble has been that so many other EU countries opted out of hte free movement idea in relation to new members, incl. Poland etc.
Why against the concept of the EU? It is specifically provided for in the Accession Treaty, a treaty that allows for a transitional period of adjustment.On the other hand it's totally unfair, against the concept of the EU, which on the whole I think 'is a good thing..'
5% of the population in Australia is British. So I think some migration in the other direction is not unreasonable.johnsienk wrote:>>I think the trouble has been that so many other EU countries opted out of hte free movement idea in relation to new members, incl. Poland etc.
You need to know that most of the EU15 have now opened up the labour market to the 2004 entrants. The most notable exception are Germany, France and Austria, but even they will have to open their markets in little over 3 years (per EU law). It is funny how the Brits are complaining about the Poles, while they are not bothered by the French, Kiwis, Americans and whatnot, in a situation where these groups of immigrants are almost as large as the Poles--a fact conveniently overlooked in the tabloid press.
It is true, time will run out on EU states that have imposed restrictions on A2 countries, but during that time they are hoping that other EU states would have opened up their borders. Austria has pledged to remove restrictions in 2008 and other countries will follow suit. The problem is that places like Finland which welcomed A2 countries cannot attract labour in the same way that the British economy can. Britain has a history of importing cheap labour, a foreign worker will stand out in Finland and in other similar places. Britain opened up the shop in 2004 and now has more than enough cheap labour. It will probably keep the A2 countries out at least a year after general elections are constitutionally due in 2010.John wrote:Why against the concept of the EU? It is specifically provided for in the Accession Treaty, a treaty that allows for a transitional period of adjustment.On the other hand it's totally unfair, against the concept of the EU, which on the whole I think 'is a good thing..'
So whereas for the A8 countries, where the UK relaxed from the position it could have taken in the A8 Accession Treaty, unlike Germany, France etc, which still require A8 nationals to have WPs, the UK is for the A2 nationals merely retaining the same position as Germany, France etc..
But one thing is certain ..... the transitional provisions will run out ... with the mere passage of time!