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We don't sugarcoat advice on the forum. We offer advice based on facts and the immigration rules and say it as it is. You might not like this but it is what it is. We have seen it all, every trick people think to try (more often than not resulting in failure).Firstly, I am fairly sure that I said I wanted to do this legit, and yet the whole tone of your reply seems to suggest you feel it is otherwise.
Yes, a bit touchy. There is no 'try this or thought of that'. There are rules and they are quite rigid, we reiterate them, people don't like what we say often proceed on what they perceive and fail and return for help to fix their stuff up at not taking the advice in the first place.Secondly maybe I am being touchy, but I would have hoped to have received a response from someone that was going to offer up some positive 'have you thought of this' or 'have you tried that' suggestions, instead of just someone bashing me saying 'no, no, no, cant and don't'.
That is not what Casa said. Read the comment again. Visitors cannot accumulate the time to qualify towards an unmarried partner visa because then it is evident that they are not a 'visitor'. But if you are so sure, let us know how you get on and if she receives a ban or is refused entry for effectively 'living' in the UK and not being a 'genuine visitor'. I would be cautious given the amount of visitors that have been refused a visa or entry.In fact the only thing that you might have been at all helpful is in saying that if she stays with me for 6 months we will have to show that it wasn't just as visitors, though I am fairly sure I can prove that without a doubt.
You might have a bit of wait given the tone in your response.Thanks but I will wait/keep trying to find someone somewhere to reply who is going to be a little more helpful.
Casa is right, only takes one IO to stop her and ask her intentions. Search of bags and find CV's, bills showing living at ur address, doesn't take much.daveace76 wrote:Casa
Firstly, I am fairly sure that I said I wanted to do this legit, and yet the whole tone of your reply seems to suggest you feel it is otherwise.
Secondly maybe I am being touchy, but I would have hoped to have received a response from someone that was going to offer up some positive 'have you thought of this' or 'have you tried that' suggestions, instead of just someone bashing me saying 'no, no, no, cant and don't'.
As she can AND HAS come to the UK before already, without a visa, your whole "in order for a visitor visa to succeed she would have to submit strong reasons for returning" line, just doesn't make any sense at all.
In fact the only thing that you might have been at all helpful is in saying that if she stays with me for 6 months we will have to show that it wasn't just as visitors, though I am fairly sure I can prove that without a doubt.
Thanks but I will wait/keep trying to find someone somewhere to reply who is going to be a little more helpful.
Not easy for me though at this difficult time personally. Trying to watch Coronation Street AND Liverpool vs Bournemouth in two windows on my Mac...CR001 wrote:@ Wanderer, knew it wouldn't take you long to arrive and comment
Struggling with the mulit-tasking again I see!!Wanderer wrote:Not easy for me though at this difficult time personally. Trying to watch Coronation Street AND Liverpool vs Bournemouth in two windows on my Mac...CR001 wrote:@ Wanderer, knew it wouldn't take you long to arrive and comment
What do you expect Char...he's a man!CR001 wrote:Struggling with the mulit-tasking again I see!!Wanderer wrote:Not easy for me though at this difficult time personally. Trying to watch Coronation Street AND Liverpool vs Bournemouth in two windows on my Mac...CR001 wrote:@ Wanderer, knew it wouldn't take you long to arrive and comment
Of course, how could I forget!! And here I am watching a show on TV, another show on my tablet, on immi boards and another forum and having chats on FB with 3 people!!Casa wrote:What do you expect Char...he's a man!CR001 wrote:Struggling with the mulit-tasking again I see!!Wanderer wrote:Not easy for me though at this difficult time personally. Trying to watch Coronation Street AND Liverpool vs Bournemouth in two windows on my Mac...
Another way to come to UK, especially for a Mexican citizen, is via Spain.daveace76 wrote:...
For note, we DO want to do this legit, and are looking at every possible legal option, but i don't really want to leave the uk myself for 2 years (leaving my house and job in the process) just to satisfy to the ukba that our relationship is solid and lasting.
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Thanks
Best of luck.... satisfy to the ukba that our relationship is solid and lasting
Don't want to marry - WRONGPetaltop wrote:You are asking what many before have asked; how to bring their girlfriend that they don't want to marry, to the UK.
So the ONLY way people from other countries enter the UK legally is to be married first! - WRONGPetaltop wrote:It's marriage or nothing and even with marriage you will have to show you can afford to sponsor her.
So immigrants who come to live and work in the UK are ok as long as they never plan on getting married? - WRONGPetaltop wrote:bite her if she then applies for a fiance/spouse visa later down the line.
So accusing me of lying, cheating, and trying to simply shack up with my girlfriend and am not prepared to marry her is all your idea of "lots of help"?Petaltop wrote:You've already had lots of help from the posters here"
daveace76 wrote:Don't want to marry - WRONGPetaltop wrote:You are asking what many before have asked; how to bring their girlfriend that they don't want to marry, to the UK.
So the ONLY way people from other countries enter the UK legally is to be married first! - WRONGPetaltop wrote:It's marriage or nothing and even with marriage you will have to show you can afford to sponsor her.
Oh and I can afford her just fine thanks, as I have a nice London job that pays very well thank you!
So immigrants who come to live and work in the UK are ok as long as they never plan on getting married? - WRONGPetaltop wrote:bite her if she then applies for a fiance/spouse visa later down the line.
So accusing me of lying, cheating, and trying to simply shack up with my girlfriend and am not prepared to marry her is all your idea of "lots of help"?Petaltop wrote:You've already had lots of help from the posters here"
Geez, what a bunch of helpful souls.
Your right Petaltop ... I should say a big thank you to all the people here who insulted me, slurred me and my intentions and then went off topic and started talking football and television viewing habits ... it was SUCH a great help in deciding which sort of Tier 2 visa my girlfriend should apply for, or how much it was going to cost, or how long it would take to process, or if there was any associated health costs incurred, or how long it would be valid for, or if she could extend it here in the UK or not, or how much savings she needed and for how long, or if she had to be fluent in English, or which were the most appropriate UK sponsors to go to, or how much the job would need to earn per annum in order to qualify, or if she could change jobs once after she arrived, or if she could change her visa once she was here or had to return to Mexico in order to do this, or what documentary evidence she would need to prove in order to backup her application, or any of the dozens of other questions we will need to answer and justify prior to her arrival later this/next year.
Great help one and all ... your doing a bang up job, and I am sooooooo glad that I took time to read and re-read every reply here, because you certainly put my mind at rest and allayed my fears I can tell you.
Why now that I have read all your comments I feel positively confident that I have been informed of everything I needed to know before assisting her in successfully completing her entry visa.
Your job here is done ... give yourselves a pat on the back then treat yourselves the rest of the day off, you sure have earned it!
noajthan, I don't think the OP wants any further advice as it appears that he's going to wait for the UKVI to start offering interviews for sponsors needing help with their application ...although this may well be a considerably long way off... but for the benefit of other members, the Surinder Singh route isn't open to unmarried partners.noajthan wrote:Another way to come to UK, especially for a Mexican citizen, is via Spain.daveace76 wrote:...
For note, we DO want to do this legit, and are looking at every possible legal option, but i don't really want to leave the uk myself for 2 years (leaving my house and job in the process) just to satisfy to the ukba that our relationship is solid and lasting.
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Thanks
Ref: http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-for ... sh-citizen
You could also look into the Surinder Singh route if you wanted to test the water whilst living/working together somewhere in Europe.
Whatever happens, if the lady does come to UK in a relationship then you clearly will have toBest of luck.... satisfy to the ukba that our relationship is solid and lasting
Well noted Casa, it's his prerogative ofcourse but it's a shame as there's a lot to be learned between hereCasa wrote:noajthan, I don't think the OP wants any further advice as it appears that he's going to wait for the UKVI to start offering interviews for sponsors needing help with their application ...although this may well be a considerably long way off... but for the benefit of other members, the Surinder Singh route isn't open to unmarried partners.