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secret.simon wrote:Can you provide more details of your case?
Family visit visa application from Pakistan .... All 4 kids in UK ... 2 settled, 1 on tier 1 and 1 student. Father passed away in 2012 ..... She is living alone but we have loads of close family their like my uncle aunts .....she visited UK 13 years ago and returned back in time.
What was the reason for refusal?
You have stronger ties to united kingdom then Pakistan.
I m not satisfied you are genuine family visitor ....Paragraph41 (i)(ii)
What evidence did you provide of your family's strong ties back home?
What are your family's ties to the UK?
Explained above
I personally doubt that refusal of a visit visa engages human rights in any significant way.
I presume (I could be wrong) that she does not have a job to go back to.rehan01 wrote:All 4 kids in UK ... 2 settled, 1 on tier 1 and 1 student. Father passed away in 2012
secret.simon wrote:I presume (I could be wrong) that she does not have a job to go back to.rehan01 wrote:All 4 kids in UK ... 2 settled, 1 on tier 1 and 1 student. Father passed away in 2012
With that kind of a family background, I would say that the odds of her ever getting a visit visa are next to nil. I think your family and you will need to travel to Pakistan to visit her.
Yes u r right simon look like that is the only option left now as they are not going go give visa bcz these motherf******** are making money and refusing people and want them keep applying so they keep making monu.
Incidentally, that is why human rights are not engaged. You have the option to visit her outside the UK. Once you get British citizenship, you can even have her visit another EEA country and meet her there.
Yes u r right i am going to apply schenghen visa and i guess it will be easier to get that then geting uk visa.
secret.simon wrote:Can you provide more details of your case?
What was the reason for refusal?
I am not satisfied that you are genuine family visitor ...... Paragraph (i)(ii)
What evidence did you provide of your mother's strong ties back home?
2 Crore worth of property documents attached.
What are your mother's ties to the UK?
ECO said 4 Kids in UK so u you stronger ties in UK then in Pakistan
Has she been refused previously in the past? If so, how often and on what grounds?
Never refused
Has she ever overstayed a visa in the past?
Never overstayed, Came UK and returned on time
I personally doubt that refusal of a visit visa engages human rights in any significant way.
I dont know if it does engages humans rights or not but i know one thing that this is piss take and these ECO have no idea what they doing and simply robbing people ..... Wish if their was an appeal rights against the decision and face HO representative in court room face to face so i would have showed them how she is not genuine visitor.
Casa wrote:Did you submit any evidence apart from explaining that she has relatives in her home country...such as ownership of property?
secret.simon wrote:I could be wrong, but I doubt that the caseworkers put much store by ownership of property. If the mother has four children in the UK, she could overstay on a visit visa and live off the rent of property in her home country. The ties to the UK are far stronger than those back home. So, on the balance of probabilities, it would be next to impossible for the mother to be issued a visit visa.
No, but it makes it more likely that she will overstay. That is why she is not eligible for a visit visa.rehan01 wrote:Ok its a crime that 4 Kids are settled in UK ?
I'm not sure how much 2 crore is in pounds sterling, but it sounds like a healthy amount to live in the UK on. So I would not put too much store by that.rehan01 wrote:2 Crore worth of property documents attached.
There is no point in reapplying given that she actually does have stronger links (four children) to the UK than back home. Save yourself the money. She is not visiting the UK any time soon, no matter how many times you reapply. The evidence is against her, whatever your feelings about the situation.rehan01 wrote:we will be keep applying and they will be keep refusing.
secret.simon wrote:I can appreciate why you are getting het up, but any neutral observer would have come to exactly the same conclusion. So even an appeal process would not have helped. You can always take up a JR and have your day in court, though I think the only people who would benefit are the lawyers.
No, but it makes it more likely that she will overstay. That is why she is not eligible for a visit visa.rehan01 wrote:Ok its a crime that 4 Kids are settled in UK ?
I'm not sure how much 2 crore is in pounds sterling, but it sounds like a healthy amount to live in the UK on. So I would not put too much store by that.rehan01 wrote:2 Crore worth of property documents attached.
There is no point in reapplying given that she actually does have stronger links (four children) to the UK than back home. Save yourself the money. She is not visiting the UK any time soon, no matter how many times you reapply. The evidence is against her, whatever your feelings about the situation.rehan01 wrote:we will be keep applying and they will be keep refusing.
If one of her children is a British citizen, what s/he can do is to move the "center of his/her life" (i.e. family, work, etc) to another EEA country and bring her in via the Surinder Singh route. It is by no means easy, but it will allow you to move her to the UK. If you plan to go down that route, remember that it is under EU rules, not UK law, and if the UK leaves the EU, that option will be gone too. So, hurry up, if you plan to follow that route. Google "Surinder Singh route" and also look under the EEA Route applications forum on this site.