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For last 10 years employment history. I believe this is to check whether applicant were entitled to work legally in this country or not and if his/her tax liabilities are in order. I don't think it has to do with checking individual's number of hours worked each week as at that time people were allowed to work full time during their semester off and holidays. So it is difficult for HO to do this meticulous exercise unless HO comes to know this violation from reliable source.f.khan88 wrote:Hi All,
regarding naturalisation application if someone can guide, if someone while on student visa for the couple of years worked behind 20 hours pw, if apply for naturalisation would it be refuse bcz of working extra unpermitted hours? if imposed ban for 10 years then would it count from the time of student visa?
or should the person wait until the date he obtained HSMP/psw to count back 10 years employment with full time work allowed, let say further 2-3 years then apply for British naturalisation ?
any generous advise would be highly appreciated.
thanks
khan
I don't think so. HMRC only keeps a record for the amount you earned each year and tax paid on that amount and they have data available for last 6 years only.f.khan88 wrote:Thanks Arsal385
Yeah I know this, but does HMRC hold the record of number of hours worked by someone at any particular time span?
regards
Hello muzaka,muzakhaa wrote:Hi,
I agree with Arsal385. Also I asked for my previous 10 years employment history from HMRC, althought it detailed all of my Tax Paid amout etc including my Employer ( Company Names) but no information of hours worked. Also it took almost more than a month to recieve that report.
I hope this helps.
See http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 94338.htmlf.khan88 wrote:Hi All,
regarding naturalisation application if someone can guide, if someone while on student visa for the couple of years worked behind 20 hours pw, if apply for naturalisation would it be refuse bcz of working extra unpermitted hours? if imposed ban for 10 years then would it count from the time of student visa?
or should the person wait until the date he obtained HSMP/psw to count back 10 years employment with full time work allowed, let say further 2-3 years then apply for British naturalisation
any generous advise would be highly appreciated.
thanks
khan
He was refused the residents blue card back in 2010, which is a different issue n on those bases his naturalisation application was refused.noajthan wrote:
See http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 94338.html
Back to the original question:Tier 4 wrote:He was refused the residents blue card back in 2010, which is a different issue n on those bases his naturalisation application was refused.noajthan wrote:
See http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 94338.html
He wasn't spotted just for working extra hours but because of his refusal history.
Answer: Yes - on the basis of the 'good character' test.if someone while on student visa for the couple of years worked behind 20 hours pw, if apply for naturalisation would it be refuse bcz of working extra unpermitted hours?
Mitigation: claiming ignorance or claiming HO is unfair in moving goalposts (etc, etc) won't fly.Their reason is that I have not been compliant with the UK immigration laws as I was occasionally working over 20 hours a week while being a full time student.
noajthan wrote: Back to the original question:Answer: Yes - on the basis of the 'good character' test.if someone while on student visa for the couple of years worked behind 20 hours pw, if apply for naturalisation would it be refuse bcz of working extra unpermitted hours?
Evidence - quote from the facts stated by OP (in linked case):Mitigation: claiming ignorance or claiming HO is unfair in moving goalposts (etc, etc) won't fly.Their reason is that I have not been compliant with the UK immigration laws as I was occasionally working over 20 hours a week while being a full time student.
HMG & HO is rule-bound & procedure-bound and does not 'care'.
Deduction: HO have many datasources at their disposal & clearly use them when crosschecking & verifying applications.
Conclusion: When dealing with HO & immigration matters, breaking the rules or suppressing material facts & simply hoping that it won't be detected in immigration papertrail is clearly a high-risk strategy even if it works sometimes (for some people) in some spheres of life.
Hi Cool Mind,cool mind wrote:Hello muzaka,muzakhaa wrote:Hi,
I agree with Arsal385. Also I asked for my previous 10 years employment history from HMRC, althought it detailed all of my Tax Paid amout etc including my Employer ( Company Names) but no information of hours worked. Also it took almost more than a month to recieve that report.
I hope this helps.
When you requested your 10 years of employment history then whether the HMRC sent you only 6 years of employment history or 10 years? Because usually they have data in near system for the last 6 year only??
I think I'm going to request a copy of my employment record as well. Can you confirm this is the same report you request for compensation? What steps did you do and can you guide us to the form on gov.uk website?muzakhaa wrote: Hi Cool Mind,
I can confirm that they have send me my employment history from 2005 to date. And I did contact the HMRC Records Retrieval Dept for this. However when you contact HMRC directly they hold your data upto 5 years or 6 years as you mentioned. I was advised by the HMRC that I have to contact their Records Retrieval Dept if I need employment history anything beyond 5 years.
The report they send does mention the following.
- Employer Name
- Start and End Date of Employment
- Tax Paid.
Unfortunately the time I recieved this info I already submitted by Naturalisation application and therefore unable to provide the exact start and end dates of my employment.
I hope that's exactly what it is.Universal soldier wrote:Guys it's not to check the number of hours a person has worked rather to check that whether the outstanding taxes has been paid especially for tier 1 general/entrepreneur migrants. Remember in past many bad quality trading activities were undertaken by migrants to get extensions so this measure is to fish out them. Secondly HMRC don't keep the record as how many hours you have worked and ukba can never know that unless in past the migrant was detected by them or they found something from migrant. Although HMRC works along with ukba but they won't/ are not obliged to present each and every employment detail of migrant rather can precisely tell that whether the taxes of a particular person is in order or not?
It's based on my family's 6+ years of struggle trapped in the immigration system as a law-abiding, tax-paying British citizen struggling to bring my non-EU fiancee (now spouse) to UK.fielddrive wrote:As much as I'd like not to, I agree with the points raised in your post.noajthan wrote: Back to the original question:Answer: Yes - on the basis of the 'good character' test.if someone while on student visa for the couple of years worked behind 20 hours pw, if apply for naturalisation would it be refuse bcz of working extra unpermitted hours?
Evidence - quote from the facts stated by OP (in linked case):Mitigation: claiming ignorance or claiming HO is unfair in moving goalposts (etc, etc) won't fly.Their reason is that I have not been compliant with the UK immigration laws as I was occasionally working over 20 hours a week while being a full time student.
HMG & HO is rule-bound & procedure-bound and does not 'care'.
Deduction: HO have many datasources at their disposal & clearly use them when crosschecking & verifying applications.
Conclusion: When dealing with HO & immigration matters, breaking the rules or suppressing material facts & simply hoping that it won't be detected in immigration papertrail is clearly a high-risk strategy even if it works sometimes (for some people) in some spheres of life.
+1
It clicks through ok for me:f.khan88 wrote:naojthan
the last link you provided is not working?
thanks
Any updates on successful/unsuccessful applications on the above scenario?f.khan88 wrote:No Naojan that link is not working, its ok....
Anyone has been successful with their naturalisation with the above mentioned situation after the changes of employment history in AN form?
please share.
Thanks