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FORGOT TO ADD, THE FIRST TIME SHE ENTERS ON HER EEA FAMILY PERMIT, SHE WILL HAVE TO FILL IN A LANDING CARD AS THEY DO NOT HAVE A RECORD OF HER ON THE SYSTEM. THERE WASN'T A DIFFERENT NON-EEA QUEUE WHEN WE ENTERED 1ST TIME (THROUGH BIRMINGHAM) SO I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THE QUEUE. WE NOW USE THE EU QUEUE WITHOUT PROBLEMS AS MY PARTNER HAS A RESIDENCE CARD ALREADY.julianeea wrote:Hi there,
I'm a Hungarian working in the UK, with a Filipina wife. We applied for her EU FP in Dec. 2014, which was approved and received in Mar. 2015. She's remained in the Philippines during this time, while I work in the UK.
Now, I've saved up enough to be able to bring her to the UK for the next phase of our life. I will fly to the Philippines and the two of us will fly back to the UK together. Just have three questions for you in this regard:
1) At the border, is a first-time entry with an EU FP any different than subsequent entries? I've seen posts in this forum about differing levels of border control scrutiny to EU FP holders. Beyond our passports and basic papers (e.g. marriage certificate), should we bring any other documentation along in our carry-on bags in case they decide to interrogate us? I have all of the evidence that I submitted to the EU FP application saved onto my laptop - but do you think I should also bring some printouts just in case? WE BROUGHT OUR CIVIL PARTNERSHIP CERTIFICATE AND HAD THE PRINTOUTS OF THE LAW, E.G. DIRECTIVE 2004/38/EC JUST IN CASE. WE DIDN'T NEED THEM AFTER ALL.
2) My wife's level of English is still poor - she intends to learn in the UK. If they interrogate us at the border, am I able to act as her translator, in terms of answering any questions they may pose to her? Or would they insist on her trying to answer in English, or on using an official translator? I DID NOT LET THEM TALK DIRECTLY TO MY CIVIL PARTNER AND DIDN'T ALLOW HIM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THE WOMAN AT IMMIGRATION INSISTED ON TRYING TO TALK TO HIM. I SAID NO AND REMINDED HIM THAT HIS VISA WAS OFF THE BACK OF ME BEING AN EEA CITIZEN. I'M SURE SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND A TRANSLATOR IF THEY NEEDED TO AND I'M SURE YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO TRANSLATE.
3) When we arrive into the UK, my wife's EU FP will almost be expired. It has a duration from March to Sept. I intend to bring her over in late August. Is it possible to apply for an EEA FM after an EU FP expires? If not, then how/when does UKBA assess expiry date? Would they assess its timeliness on the day that the application arrives into their office, or on the day that they would issue a COA? Other forum members note that it often takes two weeks or more for a dated COA to be issued after an application arrives to their office. If my wife's FP is close to expiry, does that mean we should mail the application at least, say, three weeks prior to expiry, to be safe, or could we mail it with as little as 1 day left on the FP? IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU CAN APPLY FOR EEA FM AS SOON AS YOU HAVE ENOUGH DOCUMENTS. YOU NEED TO GET SOME PROOF OF HER RESIDENCE IN THE UK, E.G. TV LICENSE (NOT ENOUGH IN ITSELF), HER NAME ON THE TENANCY AGREEMENT, BANK STATEMENT (WE OPENED A BASIC BANK ACCOUNT (CALLED CASHMINDER: http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/curre ... cashminder) WITH THE COOPERATIVE BANK USING HIS TV LICENSE), YOUR SPOUSE'S NAME ON UTILITIES ETC. YOU WILL ALSO NEED YOUR OWN PAYSLIPS/CONTRACTS/LETTER OF EMPLOYMENT ETC. YOUR PARTNER WILL NOT BE ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHAT, AS LONG AS YOU ARE EXERCISING TREATY RIGHTS SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE HERE. OUR COA TOOK ABOUT 2 WEEKS. SEE HERE FOR INFO ABOUT HER STATUS AFTER THE EEA FAMILY PERMIT EXPIRES: https://www.gov.uk/family-permit. IT SAYS:
'Stay after your EEA family permit expires
You can stay in the UK after your permit expires if you:
are the family member of an EEA national - see if you’re eligible'
THE EXPIRY DATE ON THE EEA FAMILY PERMIT IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY MEAN THAT IT WILL BE HARDER FOR HER TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT ETC AS THE BANK WILL NORMALLY NEED TO SEE HER VISA.
Hope these questions make sense. Thanks very much in advance for your thoughts and comments!
Not sure that British citizenship would be a wise move just at this stage... just saying.cafeconleche wrote: By the way, for how long have you exercised treaty rights in the UK? Might you already be a permanent resident? Do you intend to apply for British citizenship?