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You can't have been through the visa process yourself and say that with a straight face.It is often Royal Mail who damages documents.
I came to this country almost 13 years ago and things has changed so much that I don't even recognise this country anymore. Germany taking 500 thousand refugees and we are 20 thousand, in the course of 5 years.Casa wrote:Crikey aussiegoin4it you're a very angry person. I haven't read one positive comment in your 11 posts! We've had complaints about 'beloved' against Australia, complaints about 'illegal' immigrants and asylum seekers, complaints about other members' BC applications being decided ahead of yours, complaints about British privacy laws being on a par with Russia, complaints about the BC timeline thread straying off subject and now you're preparing to demonstrate your frustration during the citizenship ceremony about documents being damaged. Is there anything at all in this Country (of which you're about to become a citizen) that makes you happy?
But surely you also take issue with:Casa wrote:Crikey aussiegoin4it you're a very angry person. I haven't read one positive comment in your 11 posts! We've had complaints about 'beloved' against Australia, complaints about 'illegal' immigrants and asylum seekers, complaints about other members' BC applications being decided ahead of yours, complaints about British privacy laws being on a par with Russia, complaints about the BC timeline thread straying off subject and now you're preparing to demonstrate your frustration during the citizenship ceremony about documents being damaged. Is there anything at all in this Country (of which you're about to become a citizen) that makes you happy?
I should also point out that after nearly a decade in London I would hardly be qualified to call myself "British" if I espoused any values other than misery and bitterness.aussiegoin4it wrote:Casa wrote:Is there anything at all in this Country (of which you're about to become a citizen) that makes you happy?
I have indeed been through the whole process of Ancestry visa, spouse visa, ILR and citizenship for myself and my daughter and yes, I have had a few issues but not directly by Home Office, more the courier company or Royal Mail.aussiegoin4it wrote:You can't have been through the visa process yourself and say that with a straight face.It is often Royal Mail who damages documents.
There is a world of difference between something being packaged negligently and damage by Royal Mail.
"Our lives are not determined by what happens to us but how we react to what happens, not by what life brings us but the attitude we bring to life."aussiegoin4it wrote:But surely you also take issue with:Casa wrote:Crikey aussiegoin4it you're a very angry person. I haven't read one positive comment in your 11 posts! We've had complaints about 'beloved' against Australia, complaints about 'illegal' immigrants and asylum seekers, complaints about other members' BC applications being decided ahead of yours, complaints about British privacy laws being on a par with Russia, complaints about the BC timeline thread straying off subject and now you're preparing to demonstrate your frustration during the citizenship ceremony about documents being damaged. Is there anything at all in this Country (of which you're about to become a citizen) that makes you happy?
I'm sorry if you want to only read positive things and ignore those things that would make the world a better place if they were addressed.
- dearly beloved posts attacking a country like Australia
- illegal immigration
- unfair processing of applications
- invasion of basic privacy in the UK
- people posting non-timeline related posts to timeline threads
- criminal damage to original documentation by the Home Office
So let's talk about the positive. I like:
Now I can not be the only person that has ever posted an unhappy post! In fact if you check the April and May timeline threads right now you'll find an ocean of misery and unhappiness!
- when people post timelines to timeline threads (thank you, you make all our lives better by keeping us informed when the Home Office provides no information)
- stickied threads with important news and information
Perhaps if the British Home Office treated human beings with more respect there would be more joy not only on these boards but in the country as a whole.
I well remember back in my home town of Bolton, in the 70's, on the 'Halliwell Mile' of about 12 pubs there was a rather incongruous Spanish Taverna by the name of 'Pedro's', run my Spanish Emigre Pedro. Remember no EU freedom of movement back then.Casa wrote:Crikey aussiegoin4it you're a very angry person. I haven't read one positive comment in your 11 posts! We've had complaints about 'beloved' against Australia, complaints about 'illegal' immigrants and asylum seekers, complaints about other members' BC applications being decided ahead of yours, complaints about British privacy laws being on a par with Russia, complaints about the BC timeline thread straying off subject and now you're preparing to demonstrate your frustration during the citizenship ceremony about documents being damaged. Is there anything at all in this Country (of which you're about to become a citizen) that makes you happy?
Very wise indeed. Most Aussies are short tempered and dearly beloved towards refugees but I don't blame them. After all the Brits send all the convicts down therecarrick wrote:From another Aussie here, we are all NOT like this!! I am currently applying for my BC via UKM and have accepted the fact that it will take 6 months. So with fingers crossed my approval will come to fruition by Feb 2016.
I am so excited to become British and start a new life in the UK when this process is all done and dusted (by the way I am 46 years old!) And I look forward to my Ceremony when I take the oath!
So good luck to all of us who have applied, the HO is doing the best they can and remember they are only documents, they can be replaced. I hope this hasn't turned you off visiting Australia!
Cheers old chap!
Carrick
That's so true!!! And I am a direct descendant from the first fleet convicts!! Perhaps I am a boat person!!Siraj ud-Daulah wrote:Very wise indeed. Most Aussies are short tempered and dearly beloved towards refugees but I don't blame them. After all the Brits send all the convicts down therecarrick wrote:From another Aussie here, we are all NOT like this!! I am currently applying for my BC via UKM and have accepted the fact that it will take 6 months. So with fingers crossed my approval will come to fruition by Feb 2016.
I am so excited to become British and start a new life in the UK when this process is all done and dusted (by the way I am 46 years old!) And I look forward to my Ceremony when I take the oath!
So good luck to all of us who have applied, the HO is doing the best they can and remember they are only documents, they can be replaced. I hope this hasn't turned you off visiting Australia!
Cheers old chap!
Carrick
Not a good comeback but a decent effort nonethelesscarrick wrote:That's so true!!! And I am a direct descendant from the first fleet convicts!! Perhaps I am a boat person!!Siraj ud-Daulah wrote:Very wise indeed. Most Aussies are short tempered and dearly beloved towards refugees but I don't blame them. After all the Brits send all the convicts down therecarrick wrote:From another Aussie here, we are all NOT like this!! I am currently applying for my BC via UKM and have accepted the fact that it will take 6 months. So with fingers crossed my approval will come to fruition by Feb 2016.
I am so excited to become British and start a new life in the UK when this process is all done and dusted (by the way I am 46 years old!) And I look forward to my Ceremony when I take the oath!
So good luck to all of us who have applied, the HO is doing the best they can and remember they are only documents, they can be replaced. I hope this hasn't turned you off visiting Australia!
Cheers old chap!
Carrick
i know and we do however, I wish this was the case, it would make things so much easier! I would love it if Commonwealth countries could travel freely between each of them and work unrestricted!ScopeD wrote:Do Aussies swear allegiance to the queen or not? I thought that since they are already subjects of Her Majesty, perhaps they can be exempt from all that hullabaloo which they are already part of. Perhaps this must be queried with Her Majesty's government.
I'm guessing that ScopeD is suggesting Aussie citizens could pass on the swearing of allegiance to the Queen during the BC ceremony. Maybe they could also ask to remain seated during the National anthem to avoid even more 'hullabaloo'.carrick wrote:i know and we do however, I wish this was the case, it would make things so much easier! I would love it if Commonwealth countries could travel freely between each of them and work unrestricted!ScopeD wrote:Do Aussies swear allegiance to the queen or not? I thought that since they are already subjects of Her Majesty, perhaps they can be exempt from all that hullabaloo which they are already part of. Perhaps this must be queried with Her Majesty's government.
You'll note my comment was somewhat 'tongue in cheek' noajthannoajthan wrote:Let's keep this in perspective...
Nobody is being forced to embrace the flag & swear allegiance to a 'Great She-Elephant from overseas' with a gun at their head.
(That was then this is now).
Indeed (I wasn't 'looking at you' Casa)Casa wrote:You'll note my comment was somewhat 'tongue in cheek' noajthannoajthan wrote:Let's keep this in perspective...
Nobody is being forced to embrace the flag & swear allegiance to a 'Great She-Elephant from overseas' with a gun at their head.
(That was then this is now).
They (Aussies) should be exempt from everything Casa. On the other hand, this brings up a very important question, namely: do they have a UKIP (perhaps it's called AuSIP) or a Scottish National Party (or perhaps Tasmanian National Party)???Casa wrote:I'm guessing that ScopeD is suggesting Aussie citizens could pass on the swearing of allegiance to the Queen during the BC ceremony. Maybe they could also ask to remain seated during the National anthem to avoid even more 'hullabaloo'.carrick wrote:i know and we do however, I wish this was the case, it would make things so much easier! I would love it if Commonwealth countries could travel freely between each of them and work unrestricted!ScopeD wrote:Do Aussies swear allegiance to the queen or not? I thought that since they are already subjects of Her Majesty, perhaps they can be exempt from all that hullabaloo which they are already part of. Perhaps this must be queried with Her Majesty's government.
No, and that is because Australia herself is run by nationalistic political leaders, who profoundly inspire the UKIP leader Mr.Farage (lost in his own constituency btw).ScopeD wrote: They (Aussies) should be exempt from everything Casa. On the other hand, this brings up a very important question, namely: do they have a UKIP (perhaps it's called AuSIP) or a Scottish National Party (or perhaps Tasmanian National Party)???
Till 2004, new citizens who already owed allegiance to the Queen in one of her other Realms (the eight Commonwealth Realms) did not need to swear allegiance again to the Queen as they already owed her allegiance as the citizen of another Commonwealth Realm.ScopeD wrote:Do Aussies swear allegiance to the queen or not? I thought that since they are already subjects of Her Majesty, perhaps they can be exempt from all that hullabaloo which they are already part of. Perhaps this must be queried with Her Majesty's government.
.(2)So much of subsection (1) as requires the taking of an oath of allegiance shall not apply to a person who—...
(b)is already a British citizen, a British Dependent Territories citizen, a British Overseas citizen, a British subject, or a citizen of any country of which Her Majesty is Queen.
Of course, originally, pre-1948, all people who owed allegiance to the monarch were British subjects. Then in 1948, Commonwealth countries started creating their own citizenships, but retained the common "British subject" part. Some renamed it to "Commonwealth citizen". New Zealand was the last country to reluctantly abandon the mother country, not only being the last to ratify the Statute of Westminster (granting it legislative independence from Westminster) in 1947, but also the last one to retain "New Zealand citizen and British subject" till the late 1970s. New Zealand, like the UK, is one of only three countries in the world that does not have a written constitution (the other one being Israel).carrick wrote:I would love it if Commonwealth countries could travel freely between each of them and work unrestricted!
During my naturalisation ceremony, an Aussie and I were the only two people in the group to sing the National Anthem unaided by the notes.Casa wrote:they could also ask to remain seated during the National anthem to avoid even more 'hullabaloo'.
There is a strong Republican movement in Australia. The current Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, strongly favours a Republic, while his immediate predecessor, Tony Abbott, was an ardent supporter of the monarchy. They are both from the same party though The Australians did hold a referendum in 1999 on getting rid of the Queen as Head of State. It failed by about 10% (45% yes to 55% No) on a 95% turnout. The last point is, in electoral terms, massively impressive.ScopeD wrote:do they have a UKIP (perhaps it's called AuSIP) or a Scottish National Party (or perhaps Tasmanian National Party)???