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Hey thank you for your response. What do you mean short cuts? He has been here for 8 years. Not ten! My mistake! I understand and due to the landlord scheme where they have to check immigration status that is just going to he the tip of an iceberg. I've tried so many times to tell him but he just says that I'm lucky I'm not in his shoes. I technically am as I have to live with this and I hate itWanderer wrote:All I can say is best resolve it as best you can within the rules. There are shortcuts in terms of bypassing the normal rules, but they are in fact long cuts since it takes longer etc, etc....
But reading your words, you need to shake him up and get him to sort himself out, both personally and with you.
One thing is for sure - in today's climate he won't be under the radar for long...
Just to clarify, as your boyfriend has been illegal for a while, it will take 20 years for him to get ILR, not 10 years, if that is what he is waiting for. It is either 10 years of legal residence or 20 years of a mixture of legal and illegal residence.AnnonymousAnon wrote:He has been here for 8 years. Not ten!
Thank you for your reply. I know I am getting so fed up of it now and every time I come home I have to put up with him.feeling sorry for himself then I feel guilty for going out because he is on his own etc I am a UK British CitizenCould you also clarify your status? Are you a British or EEA citizen or are you on leave to remain? And how long have you co-habited with your boyfriend?
How can he move to a EEA country without a passport or a visa? Sorry if I sound dumb I am trying to look at every angle so I can determine what on Earth to dosecret.simon wrote:How long have you cohabited with your boyfriend? And do you have proof of it (joint bank account, joint tenancies, bills addressed to the two of you together at the same address, etc)?
Yes we have a joint account together and we pay council tax in both of our names.
And how willing are you to leave the country for him (I have made my thoughts about the relationship clear in a previous post, so I will desist from repetition)? You may wish to look at the Surinder Singh route.
I don't think that is going to be possible due to my commitments here so I guess that is out of the window (I did research Surinder Singh after you've mentioned it)
That will require a huge investment of time from you. You would need to move with him to another EEA country for more than three months (recommended for more than six months) and exercise treaty rights by either working or seeking work or being self-sufficient with private health insurance. You could then return back to the UK with him. He will then get Permanent Residency under EU laws in 5 years and UK citizenship after 10 years.
secret.simon wrote:How long have you cohabited? Is it more than two years?
Yes we cohabited for 3 years and four months
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secret.simon wrote:
Why does he not have a passport? Surely he has an Indian passport. If not, he should get one from the Indian authorities. If he can not do that much on his own and he is so completely dependent on you, I would say you should review your options.
His ex partner has stolen his passport so that she can threaten to tell Home Office of his status that's also why we had to move ASAP and keep our address a secret
He definitely isn't going to leave afterwards as we both have unconditional love for each other. I trust him and I know he is honest with me about everything. I am just seeking advice on what routes to go down but I understand as for applying in the UK we must have a baby together. We definitely won't consider marrying because I know they will say it is fraud and home office will be informed. If he applies for a passport from the Indian authorities, will home office in UK find out about it?CR001 wrote:Is all this stress and hassle really worth it for you at the end of the day? How do you know he won't up and leave eventually once he gets indefinite leave to remain or British citizenship (probably likely given his response to your baby issue). I might sound cynical, but the reality of these situations is very real and very common, myself being targeted by foreign 'student visa' holders trying to start a relationship to remain in the UK.
There is an interesting and very helpful website for immigration marriage fraud and the fight to get government to do more to help victims etc. I know you are not married, and unlikely to happen in the UK given his illegal status, but you should look at the whole situation objectively and realistically.
There is no avenue available to him to apply for within the UK (unless you have a baby)
This still does not guarantee anything and is not an easy or quick visa route.I understand as for applying in the UK we must have a baby together.
Unlikely, it has nothing to do with HO. However, they might want to know what right to remain in the UK he has etc.If he applies for a passport from the Indian authorities, will home office in UK find out about it?
Yeah right!AnnonymousAnon wrote:He definitely isn't going to leave afterwards as we both have unconditional love for each other.CR001 wrote:Is all this stress and hassle really worth it for you at the end of the day? How do you know he won't up and leave eventually once he gets indefinite leave to remain or British citizenship (probably likely given his response to your baby issue). I might sound cynical, but the reality of these situations is very real and very common, myself being targeted by foreign 'student visa' holders trying to start a relationship to remain in the UK.
There is an interesting and very helpful website for immigration marriage fraud and the fight to get government to do more to help victims etc. I know you are not married, and unlikely to happen in the UK given his illegal status, but you should look at the whole situation objectively and realistically.
There is no avenue available to him to apply for within the UK (unless you have a baby)
Just about everything you've described has raised every red flag we have on this type of situation. I know that from your perspective this seems like the whole world to you now. But for us here, this is not exactly new. From our experience, it sounds like the only reason he is having anything to do with you is because you are:AnnonymousAnon wrote:He definitely isn't going to leave afterwards as we both have unconditional love for each other. I trust him and I know he is honest with me about everything.
There is no anchor baby exception to the immigration rules. If this is what he believes, he has either been woefully misinformed or is thinking wishfully. He can and will be deported, even if starts making babies. There are some rules for older children (7+ years), but even those are quite specific and there is no guarantee.AnnonymousAnon wrote:I am just seeking advice on what routes to go down but I understand as for applying in the UK we must have a baby together.
Not true. If it is a genuine marriage, they will see that and allow it. However, in this case, they will correctly recognize that he is only doing this as means to further remain in the country illegally.AnnonymousAnon wrote:We definitely won't consider marrying because I know they will say it is fraud
This thread is over 3 years old and the member hasn't visited the forum since Oct 29, 2015Charlotteibnlfassi wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:05 pmCane across this and am In a very similiar situation, been with my partner for over 5years he has been here illegally since 2010. (Overstayed his visa)
How did you situation turn out in the end?