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Well....our backup plan was going to the UK or Brasil. If your husband works in the north of Dublin you might even move to Northern Ireland and commute (some people are doing this). For us that was no option as I work in the south of Dublin and communiting would be a hell. If you do decide to move to the UK get a Stamp 3 first if you haven't already.camilachimelo wrote:Hey Dimmy77!
First of all:Congrats for u 2!!!As a brazilian myself, I understand the importance of that, especially on the hollyday season! Unfortunatelly, my letter was a NO!To be more especific, TODAY!I'm in the exact same situationas your wife, the only difference is that my husband is italian.As u can imagine, we're absolutelly terrified... so, if u don't mind, as u said you were prepared for the worst, what should we do now?Any idea of how to appel to that? Thank's in advance!!!!
We were offered an out-of court settlement by the DOJ to drop our case against them by offering us the same 'dodgy' 2 year stamp4. I don't know how reliable this stamp4 can be in a couple of years time.Dimy77 wrote:These letters have been sent to people since june I think (check these forums), but until now nobody has figured out what criteria the GNIB is using to decide whether someone is getting this stamp or not....
We've asked the Immigrant Cpuncil about this, and they had no clue, they even denied existance of such letters as "Stamp 4" would be the same as a Residence Card, so you couldn't be denied for residence but receive Stamp 4 at the same time (note: this is what Immigrant Council told us, not my thoughts). Once we have the stamp and the GNIB card I will forward the letter we received to the Immigrant Council and see what they think of it.
I wouldn't say it's a change of policy, i think it's more of a gamble and sheer luck
Well...that's your decision, we are very happy with this stamp "dodgy" as it may be. Our long term plans are not in Ireland and probably have left Ireland before this 2 years expires anyway.archigabe wrote: We were offered an out-of court settlement by the DOJ to drop our case against them by offering us the same 'dodgy' 2 year stamp4. I don't know how reliable this stamp4 can be in a couple of years time.
Grab what you can.We were offered an out of court settlement by the DOJ to drop our case against them by offering us the same 'dodgy' 2 year stamp 4...I don't know if this stamp 4 is something they just made up on the spur of the moment to keep us quiet, and how reliable it can be in a couple of year's time when it has no real legal backing.
To be honest, we prefer to get our full rights, and not some compromise with something which we are not happy about.If everybody cuts and runs with a bad compromise the DOJ will be free to carry on with their crappy attitude treating E.U/Non E.U couples like sh**t. This is also for the other people who have not been able to go to court. We would like bring some change to the system and call the government's attitude to account.We intend to go all the way in the courts to get the full 5 year residency,damages and full costs to our solicitors.Dimy77 wrote:I think a lot of people would be very happy to accept that settlement you've been offered!archigabe wrote: We were offered an out-of court settlement by the DOJ to drop our case against them by offering us the same 'dodgy' 2 year stamp4. I don't know how reliable this stamp4 can be in a couple of years time.
Just a few differences between your case and mine:Dimy77 wrote:These letters have been sent to people since june I think (check these forums), but until now nobody has figured out what criteria the GNIB is using to decide whether someone is getting this stamp or not....
We've asked the Immigrant Cpuncil about this, and they had no clue, they even denied existance of such letters as "Stamp 4" would be the same as a Residence Card, so you couldn't be denied for residence but receive Stamp 4 at the same time (note: this is what Immigrant Council told us, not my thoughts). Once we have the stamp and the GNIB card I will forward the letter we received to the Immigrant Council and see what they think of it.
I wouldn't say it's a change of policy, i think it's more of a gamble and sheer luck .
You say your case is very similar to ours...so what separates your case from ours? Maybe there's a clue...
I think you are overly cautious. Atleast in your case they responded to your appeals, and there are plenty of court cases besides ours and other people who have accepted out of court settlements.Dimy77 wrote:My fear in your action is that by not accepting this 2 years stamp you are potentially ruining the chance to have a normal life for other couples who would love to get this stamp if the Government decides to discontinue issueing this stamp altogether and just wait for all the court cases that are dragging on forever.