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That's the second time they've written that and this time I can't be bothered to write back; I just can't believe the incompetence.White Emerald wrote:Short update: I received a letter from the Home Office today , but not with my stamped RN. It was a reply to an enquiry my wife asked me to write to: "jog their memories". I sent the letter never expecting a reply but hey presto I got one. Unfortunately, I knew from here that it wasn't what I wanted. However, can you believe they again wrote: "thank you for your recent enquiry about your application FOR British citizenship,............... we will inform you in due course"
chaoclive wrote:03 numbers are local rate numbers. They're free from mobile free minute packages and cost no more than calls to geographic numbers (01/02).BCarter wrote:The way I see it the only power really we have is pester power and I fully intend to use thatimagine how funny it will be when ever they answer the phone eventually and know you on first name terms. By the way I would check to see how much that number cost to call and if it's expensive I would suggest even phoning from Skype or some other service as it will be much cheaper or there may even be an alternative cheaper number. It may well be a landline cost but I don't know.. I only know northern Irish numbers Lol
BCarter wrote:White Emerald wrote:Short update: I received a letter from the Home Office today , but not with my stamped RN. It was a reply to an enquiry my wife asked me to write to: "jog their memories". I sent the letter never expecting a reply but hey presto I got one. Unfortunately, I knew from here that it wasn't what I wanted. However, can you believe they again wrote: "thank you for your recent enquiry about your application FOR British citizenship,............... we will inform you in due course"
I believe that sums up our situation.. I think it's a case of too few people trying to do too much and getting sloppy. Emerald when does your six month date fall?
White Emerald wrote:Short update: I received a letter from the Home Office today , but not with my stamped RN. It was a reply to an enquiry my wife asked me to write to: "jog their memories". I sent the letter never expecting a reply but hey presto I got one. Unfortunately, I knew from here that it wasn't what I wanted. However, can you believe they again wrote: "thank you for your recent enquiry about your application FOR British citizenship,............... we will inform you in due course"
Maybe they've just been dragging their heels or have stuck us as low priority because they think we won't complain. Anyway I am very glad to hear that you're getting somewhere with this. It makes me wonder should I complain at about five months and see if that helps at all. I could say something along the lines of I've heard no feedback about my application and I am concerned about the lack of communication etc. Lol. Which email address did you complain to Louise ?louise2 wrote:Hi all, the home office called me back again this afternoon, this time the man was actually very nice, and actually listened and looked at my application while i was on phone. So i asked him has my application even been looked at, he replied yes, but it just hasnt been done yet, (so there is no backlog then huh? everyone) i asked why, he didnt know, he confirmed all was in order, my documents etc. He also confirmed this should have been done by now, and asked when i had emailed complaints which was this morning, he said good, he advised complaints will contact caseworker and ask why it not been done , they will have to provide complaints information as to what is happening. So on a positive note complaints will chase it , it seems on a negative note it can take up to 20 working days to hear anything back. Plot thickens.
hey BC, ok here is the address. complaints@homeoffice.gsi.gov.ukBCarter wrote:Maybe they've just been dragging their heels or have stuck us as low priority because they think we won't complain. Anyway I am very glad to hear that you're getting somewhere with this. It makes me wonder should I complain at about five months and see if that helps at all. I could say something along the lines of I've heard no feedback about my application and I am concerned about the lack of communication etc. Lol. Which email address did you complain to Louise ?louise2 wrote:Hi all, the home office called me back again this afternoon, this time the man was actually very nice, and actually listened and looked at my application while i was on phone. So i asked him has my application even been looked at, he replied yes, but it just hasnt been done yet, (so there is no backlog then huh? everyone) i asked why, he didnt know, he confirmed all was in order, my documents etc. He also confirmed this should have been done by now, and asked when i had emailed complaints which was this morning, he said good, he advised complaints will contact caseworker and ask why it not been done , they will have to provide complaints information as to what is happening. So on a positive note complaints will chase it , it seems on a negative note it can take up to 20 working days to hear anything back. Plot thickens.
louise2 wrote:Hi everyone, nothing to report , stil waiting, however feeling very down and some what lonely today about the whole situation, just thought i needed to hear from people in the same position as me. How are you all coping? what do you do to remain hopeful?
White Emerald? how did the visitor visa go? and how did you go about it? the last time my husband entered this country he was detained for 6 hrs threatened with being sent home all because he has a british wife, he had return flights, money etc . In the end they let him in after warning if he dont go home kind of thing they know where he wil be! and get this, He did go home at the end of the trip , and the home office was sending me letters months after he had gone demanding to see proof he had left the country , Im not kidding. He left in the June couple of years ago this was now, and the homeofice sent me a letter in the september i had to get my husband to scan me a picture of the stamp in his passport that showed he arrived home! he hasnt bothered coming here since, i dont believe they would let him through the border without anything but the EEA permit, my husband has no criminal convictions , he not even had a speeding ticket, he been fully back ground checked from a couple of years ago when we wanted to marry here but our marriage visitor visa was refused as they said he couldnt prove he had no ties back at home, his response was , wel i dont my family is here, but it dont mean i wont return to my job/my home . So we married in the states with none of my family present except my daughter thanks to UK homeoffice. Since then i go to the States, they dont give me no nonsense i get a friendly smile and waved in with a 3 months stamp in my passport. It would be great to get him here while we wait this out. but even that seems inpossible.. not having a good day.
Hi Louise,louise2 wrote: White Emerald? how did the visitor visa go? and how did you go about it? the last time my husband entered this country he was detained for 6 hrs threatened with being sent home all because he has a british wife, he had return flights, money etc . In the end they let him in after warning if he dont go home kind of thing they know where he wil be! and get this, He did go home at the end of the trip , and the home office was sending me letters months after he had gone demanding to see proof he had left the country , Im not kidding. He left in the June couple of years ago this was now, and the homeofice sent me a letter in the september i had to get my husband to scan me a picture of the stamp in his passport that showed he arrived home! he hasnt bothered coming here since, i dont believe they would let him through the border without anything but the EEA permit, my husband has no criminal convictions , he not even had a speeding ticket, he been fully back ground checked from a couple of years ago when we wanted to marry here but our marriage visitor visa was refused as they said he couldnt prove he had no ties back at home, his response was , wel i dont my family is here, but it dont mean i wont return to my job/my home . So we married in the states with none of my family present except my daughter thanks to UK homeoffice. Since then i go to the States, they dont give me no nonsense i get a friendly smile and waved in with a 3 months stamp in my passport. It would be great to get him here while we wait this out. but even that seems inpossible.. not having a good day.
now the 6 months are up [and on the gov. site it says WITHIN 6 months], you have every right as BC said, to chase them up on this.
. I know what you mean, my husband and I are also struggling, our marriage is suffering, we be married a year in January and we have spent the first year of our marriage forced apart we had 2 days honeymoon after wedding then we were separated again by the atlantic ocean , that would make any marriage suffer. Ok, thanks for clarifying Louise. Unfortunately, none of this is relevant to them it would seem. They're really trying to close all the loopholes. Immigration to the UK is going to become harder and harder in the future. It's only a matter of time in my opinion before they try to close the loophole we're trying to use because it: "circumvents the UK immigration rules", or something of the like. Is there a backlog? Yes, possibly; are they understaffed? Yes, no doubt; but are these the only reasons there is such a delay? I have my doubts. They may not be able to stop people renouncing, but my instinct tells me new legislation is in the pipeline to close this loophole; that is to say, to those with dual Irish/British citizenship. Again, I hope I'm very wrong about this.louise2 wrote:Hi white Emerald. Sorry i should have been more clear, back then my husband didnt have a visitor visa he just came here,, hense the interrogation hey
Makes you laugh, im sorry for the negativity, but my husband and I are good people work hard, clean records, however you read all the time about these criminals allowed to be here because of their human rights. what about ours?
But there you go and on a positive note a new week is dawning, with that i hope positive developments materialise .
White Emerald wrote:Ok, thanks for clarifying Louise. Unfortunately, none of this is relevant to them it would seem. They're really trying to close all the loopholes. Immigration to the UK is going to become harder and harder in the future. It's only a matter of time in my opinion before they try to close the loophole we're trying to use because it: "circumvents the UK immigration rules", or something of the like. Is there a backlog? Yes, possibly; are they understaffed? Yes, no doubt; but are these the only reasons there is such a delay? I have my doubts. They may not be able to stop people renouncing, but my instinct tells me new legislation is in the pipeline to close this loophole; that is to say, to those with dual Irish/British citizenship. Again, I hope I'm very wrong about this.louise2 wrote:Hi white Emerald. Sorry i should have been more clear, back then my husband didnt have a visitor visa he just came here,, hense the interrogation hey
Makes you laugh, im sorry for the negativity, but my husband and I are good people work hard, clean records, however you read all the time about these criminals allowed to be here because of their human rights. what about ours?
But there you go and on a positive note a new week is dawning, with that i hope positive developments materialise .
BCarter wrote:White Emerald wrote:Ok, thanks for clarifying Louise. Unfortunately, none of this is relevant to them it would seem. They're really trying to close all the loopholes. Immigration to the UK is going to become harder and harder in the future. It's only a matter of time in my opinion before they try to close the loophole we're trying to use because it: "circumvents the UK immigration rules", or something of the like. Is there a backlog? Yes, possibly; are they understaffed? Yes, no doubt; but are these the only reasons there is such a delay? I have my doubts. They may not be able to stop people renouncing, but my instinct tells me new legislation is in the pipeline to close this loophole; that is to say, to those with dual Irish/British citizenship. Again, I hope I'm very wrong about this.louise2 wrote:Hi white Emerald. Sorry i should have been more clear, back then my husband didnt have a visitor visa he just came here,, hense the interrogation hey
Makes you laugh, im sorry for the negativity, but my husband and I are good people work hard, clean records, however you read all the time about these criminals allowed to be here because of their human rights. what about ours?
But there you go and on a positive note a new week is dawning, with that i hope positive developments materialise .
And risk bringing the wrath of the EU down upon them? That violates the idea of free movement and whilst the UK gov can be dicks to their own citizens without recourse they cannot so easily do that to an EU citizen, currently the PM is seeking to renegotiate the UKs relationship with the EU, I have not seen a single point on it affecting EU citizens aside from restrictions to benefits.
If you can find a source which is not based upon your gut then by all means share it with us, or else we can all just speculate and make this unpleasant experience even worse by creating scenarios which we just feel might be true.
And p.s I am routing for you, Louise and everyone else who is in this process! Stay strong and share any information you get and I hope to be having a nice chat in a few months about how we are all settled and happy.
I have no idea anymore, I am sickened and very unsure of the future. Might end up moving country to try the SS route. I now have a job that pays the required amount but id have to wait 6 months to even apply to bring my wife here. I've already waited nearly 5!!!louise2 wrote:Do you think they really holding our applications because of this?
I can't remember now, but I either read this or someone told me about it quite a while back. That it is to say it was rumoured. I have no idea how this will affect us all but it's not looking good is it? There were just too many coincidences for it just to be backlog or lack of staff; something obviously changed when the tories were voted back in. They hate being subject to this loophole, especially, as they make no money from it at the start.BCarter wrote: Well it seems I should eat my words, one of Camerons key points is to restrict eu citizens from bringing non eu spouses to the uk.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... le-3311261
WHAT ARE CAMERON'S KEY DEMANDS FOR EU REFORM?
IMMIGRATION
Restrictions on EU migrants bringing in family members from outside the EU
Sorry Emerald, I just wanted to stay positive, now we have to wait until mid December to see what happens. I think he will get rebuffed but maybe this is why there is a hold up. I'm guessing noone has any news..
White Emerald wrote:I can't remember now, but I either read this or someone told me about it quite a while back. That it is to say it was rumoured. I have no idea how this will affect us all but it's not looking good is it? There were just too many coincidences for it just to be backlog or lack of staff; something obviously changed when the tories were voted back in. They hate being subject to this loophole, especially, as they make no money from it at the start.BCarter wrote: Well it seems I should eat my words, one of Camerons key points is to restrict eu citizens from bringing non eu spouses to the uk.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... le-3311261
WHAT ARE CAMERON'S KEY DEMANDS FOR EU REFORM?
IMMIGRATION
Restrictions on EU migrants bringing in family members from outside the EU
Sorry Emerald, I just wanted to stay positive, now we have to wait until mid December to see what happens. I think he will get rebuffed but maybe this is why there is a hold up. I'm guessing noone has any news..
I agree with you that the EU would probably reject this; however, the delays while all this goes on doesn't bear thinking about. As you said BC, this may not come to pass but who knows how long we'll have to wait; it's absolutely awful news. We don't know what the restrictions are, but I bet using renouncement is one of them.
Meanwhile Louise, I'd be at them every day about your RN. There is NO excuse for going into 7 months and once you get it back, you could still get your EEA all going well.
Lissa6 wrote:Well it seems I should eat my words, one of Camerons key points is to restrict eu citizens from bringing non eu spouses to the uk.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... le-3311261
WHAT ARE CAMERON'S KEY DEMANDS FOR EU REFORM?
IMMIGRATION
No in-work benefits or social housing until working migrants have been in Britain for four years.
No child benefit or tax credits paid for children living outside the UK.
No benefits for unemployed migrants, who could be deported if they do not get a job for six months.
Restrictions on EU migrants bringing in family members from outside the EU
Sorry Emerald, I just wanted to stay positive, now we have to wait until mid December to see what happens. I think he will get rebuffed but maybe this is why there is a hold up. I'm guessing noone has any news..
