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archigabe wrote:Website from the European commission listing the various options available to someone whose rights as an European National have been violated by Ireland.
http://ec.europa.eu/ireland/general_inf ... dex_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/ ... _ec_en.pdf
Their rejection of E.U1 applications and their application of Irish S.I 656 on E.U families is completely illegal and I think we should be able to claim damages.''(5)The right of all Union citizens to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States should, if it is to be exercised under objective conditions of freedom and dignity, be also granted to their family members, irrespective of nationality. For the purposes of this Directive, the definition of ‘family member’ should also include the registered partner if the legislation of the host Member State treats registered partnership as equivalent to marriage.
(6)In order to maintain the unity of the family in a broader sense and without prejudice to the prohibition of discrimination on grounds of nationality, the situation of those persons who are not included in the definition of family members under this Directive, and who therefore do not enjoy an automatic right of entry and residence in the host Member State, should be examined by the host Member State on the basis of its own national legis-lation, in order to decide whether entry and residence could be granted to such persons, taking into consideration their relationship with the Union citizen or any other circumstances, such as their financial or physical dependence on the Union citizen.
Well, I think a year of inactivity is damage enough - No income produced means that we had to manage only with my own, which has been really bit tight in all honesty. She's a highly qualified professional just wasting away without being able to practice - you know how hard is to get in the loop after having so much time of inactivity? Most places won't take references that are more than two years old, and we're getting there.Lex wrote:Damages have been sought in a number of recent judicial review "leave" cases where EU residency has been refused. It would be important in these cases to be able to show actual damages.
Yeah, but it'd be bad if it hits the media and makes us look like complete asshatsarchigabe wrote:She doesn't actually have to go through with it. The Irish American lobby seems to have Bertie Ahern's ear and if she wrote to them that she would do her best to get them arrested in the U.S unless they can convince Ahern to change his government's policy regarding her situation in Ireland.
Im surprised you are more worried about being unpopular than apply pressure on the Irish government.Ark wrote:Yeah, but it'd be bad if it hits the media and makes us look like complete asshatsarchigabe wrote:She doesn't actually have to go through with it. The Irish American lobby seems to have Bertie Ahern's ear and if she wrote to them that she would do her best to get them arrested in the U.S unless they can convince Ahern to change his government's policy regarding her situation in Ireland.
If it comes to gathering public support, last thing I want to seem is someone just trying to get their own situation sorted by screwing others - Plus its not only about public image but a bit about moral standpoint.archigabe wrote:Im surprised you are more worried about being unpopular than apply pressure on the Irish government.
Hope it works out for you both, and your wife gets well!
asartes: The "fascists" at the DoJ are just run-of-the mill Irish nationalists, they repeatedly made it clear, like other Irish institutions, that the "lads" expect to have special rights in Europe while exploiting and abusing other Europeans.
and your country is prefect? where you from?astartes wrote:Do use your power to hold RoI institutions accountable. Ignore agents of influence who are being paid to whitewash the image of the RoI (a well-known technique used by Irish institutions). Most European institutions know about the dissimulation tactics being used, and are sick of them.
The only approach that works with mafiosi is appeal to a higher power. The recent decisions of the ECJ are only a beginning. Much stronger action is needed to address the vast high-level corruption and incompetence of the Irish justice, political and administrative systems.
No way, the DOJ has handled this whole affair like what you would find in a third world country, the law is not about rolling a dice or guess work, you either agree with the directive that you signed or dont sign it. period. This whole affair smacks of incompetence and beloved, simple aswalrusgumble wrote:and your country is prefect? where you from?astartes wrote:Do use your power to hold RoI institutions accountable. Ignore agents of influence who are being paid to whitewash the image of the RoI (a well-known technique used by Irish institutions). Most European institutions know about the dissimulation tactics being used, and are sick of them.
The only approach that works with mafiosi is appeal to a higher power. The recent decisions of the ECJ are only a beginning. Much stronger action is needed to address the vast high-level corruption and incompetence of the Irish justice, political and administrative systems.
You do realise what you are saying is over generalising and deflamatory, with hints of absolute beloved. every one else is annoyed by the way they are treated but at least they can intelligently discuss their problems.
if people actually belived you, you would be on your way to inciting hatred which my dear boy is a punishable offence. last i saw europe have not being fining ireland.
i recommend that you check out european barometers, its funny casue the european union and transparency international consider ireland to be in the top table for least corrupt countries in the world.
you might need to note, that it was the irish courts who sent the cases to europe. it was the irish courts who have and will continue to have no problem ruling against ireland when its out of line
Statutory Instrument 656 of 2006 contains many incorrect interpretations of Directive 2004/38/EC. Regulation 3(2) of SI 656 of 2006 has even been ruled unlawful by the ECJ.walrusgumble wrote:..last i saw europe have not being fining ireland..
Actually walrusgrumble, you sound like someone who makes empty threats in an attempt to shut up criticism. Take it from an Irish American who now lives in the UK. Astartes has a right to free speech, and your attitude is undemocratic. Your attempts to threaten him because of his opinions are beyond ridiculous. Imagine the US trying to censor the rubbish "Team America" because it is "defamatory". Most Irish newspapers say much worse things about the US than what Astartes (rightly or wrongly) has been saying here about Ireland. Your excessive reaction does smack of low self-esteem.walrusgumble wrote: You do realise what you are saying is over generalising and deflamatory, with hints of absolute beloved. every one else is annoyed by the way they are treated but at least they can intelligently discuss their problems.
if people actually belived you, you would be on your way to inciting hatred which my dear boy is a punishable offence. last i saw europe have not being fining ireland.
i recommend that you check out european barometers, its funny casue the european union and transparency international consider ireland to be in the top table for least corrupt countries in the world.
you might need to note, that it was the irish courts who sent the cases to europe. it was the irish courts who have and will continue to have no problem ruling against ireland when its out of line