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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:23 pm

Switzerland and Norway are not EU members, but are EEA members. That means that they have agreed to implement Directive 2004/38/EC.

What is a C permit? I would guess, that you can do that after 5 years.

Are there any restrictions on you working if you have a B permit?

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Post by SYH » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:27 pm

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Switzerland and Norway are not EU members, but are EEA members. That means that they have agreed to implement Directive 2004/38/EC.

What is a C permit? I would guess, that you can do that after 5 years.

Are there any restrictions on you working if you have a B permit?
Because Switzerland and norway and uk are not EU but EEA members, do they share info about their immigrants????

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Post by zsxue » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:27 pm

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:42 pm

Congratulations!

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Post by flyboy » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:28 pm

zsxue wrote:Thanks for everybody (special for Mr Prawo) in this forum. Finally we got 5 years' resident permit (B permit) in Lutzen in Switzerland (not in France) on the basis of the parentage of a child EEA citizen(I don't understand why the judgement from EU court applies in Switzerland).Mr Prawo,could you please tell us when we can apply for C-permit in Switzerland?
Zsxue, welcome to Switzerland (CH) ! Your child as an irish citizen can apply for a C permit (permanent residency) after 5 years continuous residency and yourself as a Chinese citizen (i assume) can apply for one after 10 years continuous residency. However with the new foreigners act coming into effect in switzerland the beginning of 2008 if after 5 years continuous residency in switzerland, being well integrated into your commune, language proficiency,etc.. you could submit an application after 5 years; the commune you live in as well as the canton will have the final say as to whether you receive one, it is not automatic, as you'll discover soon, your local commune has the final say on most issues .
Your child can certainly attend a local swiss school seeing that you have your EFTA / EU - B permits.


The C permit is not governed under the free movement agreement between Switzerland and the EU. The old EU 15 members, as well as USA and Canada, can apply for a C permit after 5 years of residency in switzerland. All other nationals have to live here for 10 years before being eligible to apply for one, unless you are the spouse of a Swiss citizen or a C permit holder, which will allow you the right to a C PERMIT after 5 years.

To qualify for naturalisation as a swiss citizen you'll have to live here for 12 years, before you can submit your application, which is a tedious process as it has to be approved on federal, cantonal and communal level, and your commune will have the final say on whether you can become swiss , unless of course you are married to a swiss citizen in which case 3 years of marriage and 5 years residency in switzerland will apply and you'll go through the facilitated naturalisation process, which means , only the federal government decides on your application basically. If residing with your swiss spouse outside of switzerland you are eligible to apply after 6 years of marriage.

Furthermore, Switzerland is not part of the EEA, but part of EFTA (which includes norway, liechtenstein and iceland). The swiss in december 1992 rejected EEA membership in a nationwide referendum. However Norway, liechtenstein and iceland , plus all the EU countries,makes up the EEA. Directive 2004/38 is not applicable to switzerland , as only the free movement agreement that was concluded between the EU and Switzerland which came into effect in june 2002 is applicable. If the Swiss government want to implement the directive, there will be national referendum on whether to implement it or not, as is the case with many issues concerning the EU.

The current free movement agreement between switzerland and the EU will also be put to a referendum in 2009, as to whether the swiss wish to continue with the agreement. So it's highly unlikely the swiss will even entertain the thought of implementing Directive 2004/38.

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Post by sakura » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:09 pm

Wow. Of all places, Switzerland....

zsxue, I hope your Swiss-German, German or French is good, or you had better start learning!

Flyboy - what is this new act you mentioned??

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Post by 19730201 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:13 pm

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Post by eea1973 » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:33 am

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:21 pm

Of course the UK knows about Chen ruling. It was a UK court case that brought it up. They explicitly discuss it in their rules.

What is it that you want to achieve? To live in the UK? Or to work in the UK?

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Post by eea1973 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:46 am

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the parents of a minor EEA citizen

Post by uk511528288 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:56 am

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