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johnty wrote:Hey guys
Asking on behalf of a friend.
He is British citizen however his wife and 2 children under 5 are living in Pakistan (Afghan National)
Just wondered if he can apply for children citizenship?
Thanks
Suggest 'friend' starts his immigration journey here:A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step ...
Simple answer is 'No', not if he obtained British Citizenship AFTER the children were born.johnty wrote:Hey guys
Asking on behalf of a friend.
He is British citizen however his wife and 2 children under 5 are living in Pakistan (Afghan National)
Just wondered if he can apply for children citizenship?
Thanks
Thanksnoajthan wrote:
Suggest 'friend' starts his immigration journey here:
british-citizenship/citizenship-faqs-co ... 95747.html
One child was born after the Father ILR.Q2: My child has been away from the UK. Can he apply for Registration?
There are no residential requirements for application under section 1(3) (child born in the UK before parent was granted ILR/PR).
If application under section 3(1) (children born abroad) - There are no residential requirements for children under 13 years old. Children 13-16 years old are expected to have lived in the UK for 2 years before applying. Children who moved to the UK aged 16 or more are likely to get refused and should apply as adults once they meet the Naturalisation requirements.
In that case, simple answer is NO as the people in question have no connection nor interest in life in UK.johnty wrote:Both children were born after the Father ILR.
Mother and children all lives in Pakistan as Afghan Nationals and do not intend to come to UK for living. Acquiring Registration for children if in future they want to come to UK as adult.
Can he do it if there is no residential requirement for the children while they are abroad?
Thanks
thanks
If application under section 3(1) (children born abroad)?noajthan wrote:
1(3) clearly does not apply.
Registration for privilege of citizenship (for minors born abroad as per this case) is predicated on settlement first, ie ILR.
And on showing the minor's future lies in UK.
Living abroad does not help towards nor demonstrate this.
If friend's family members wish to come to UK as adults they will have to do it in their own right;
via skilled worker or international study visa routes (or by marriage).
Some guy on the number 9 omnibus to Kabul or wherever saying it can be done doesn't prove it can be done.johnty wrote:If application under section 3(1) (children born abroad)?
He says he knows somebody has done it for his kids so my task is to see how he has done it? same circumstances however they are Pakistani National living in Pakistan.
Minors still have to be free from immigration time restrictions, for non-EEA that means having ILR.johnty wrote:Thanks all for your comments and yes it make sense What I understood that if somebody does not want to live in UK unless the parent are British and living with them abroad only then a child can be registered as British in local embassy.
One thing I did not understand..
When the child come to UK on whatever VISA and as long the one parent has ILR he can apply for the child registration with waiting for getting ILR for the child as opposed to what CR001 said.. as it is contrary to what Jambo said in his post that there is not Residential requirement for children under 13years of age.
That is not mentioned in this thread and not correct. Where did you get that from?johnty wrote:unless the parent are British and living with them abroad only then a child can be registered as British in local embassy.
Your children were born before you become Brtish (from what you have posted), so they are not British. Your ILR means nothing for them if they were born abroad. They would only be British if born abroad AFTER you became British, which is the case for the person that posted in the link you have posted.johnty wrote:Thanks all for your comments and yes it make sense What I understood that if somebody does not want to live in UK unless the parent are British and living with them abroad only then a child can be registered as British in local embassy.
BUT what this is one says here is true whatever the guys on omnibus to Kabul was saying then.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... 56219.html
Also one thing I did not understand..
When the child come to UK on whatever VISA and as long the one parent has ILR he can apply for the child registration with waiting for getting ILR for the child as opposed to what CR001 said.. as it is contrary to what Jambo said in his post that there is not Residential requirement for children under 13years of age.
If you have read the first post his family is living in Pakistan as Afghan national i.e. living as refugees. why would he spends thousand? because he is thinking about his children future as any red blooded father would do. You should stay away from these board if you are that sensitive. No disrespect but please stay focus I am sure nobody is interested in your personal feelings but if you have anything constructive, please share.jaweb wrote:Why would your friend spend thousands £ if they do not even intend to live here? I am sorry to say this but I am happy that UKVA make this process harder and harder and only genuine people can get it who really want to live here, contribute and their stayus is legal.
To read these kind of posts make my blood boil
Sorry I was assuming in general as if a British couple say move to India and they have a child born in India can go to British Embassy and register that child.unless the parent are British and living with them abroad only then a child can be registered as British in local embassy.
If child is born in UK, 1(3) of BNA can only be invoked once parent becomes settled in UK eg with ILR.johnty wrote:...
Back to the topic I noticed that while I was editing the first post to add
One child was born after the Father ILR. the original question was quoted very swifty by noajthan..
In this case this one child can be registered then as he was born after the father ILR?
You need to decide which one. ILR and Citizenship are two very different categories and have different rules for children born abroad.johnty wrote:In this case this one child can be registered then as he was born after the father ILR/citizenship?
Sorry for my vague last post CR001.CR001 wrote:You need to decide which one. ILR and Citizenship are two very different categories and have different rules for children born abroad.johnty wrote:In this case this one child can be registered then as he was born after the father ILR/citizenship?
Link to Passport for Overseas British PassportIt’s usually quicker to register the birth with the UK authorities if you get a British passport for the child first.