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You don't need to divorce the first one before you get the RC , what I would advise him is to wait till his girl friend put to bed then apply as an unmarried partner , he would need to show that his first relationship has broken down irretrievably and he is now in a marriage like relationship with this new partner .sandy88 wrote:Hi there
It's a bit complicated situation. Have you legally separated from your ex wife ? If no you will need to be legally devorced before your next wedding , as you have pending case with home office they may suspect your case.
Although you don't need a legal status in the uk to marry a EEA national but when you go to registry you will have to produce your passport ( if this with home office you will have to request an attested copy from them saying your intention ) without that registrars won't be allow you to give notice.
Again, new referral scheme came to practice in last year if you don't have a permanent visa in the Uk the registrar will refer your case to home office to investigate .. It can take Upto 70 days to finalise . Home office will let you know the outcome whether to investigate or not . Then only marriage will be conducted ,
I don't usually say this..but absolute rubbish! An application under EEA regulations as a 'durable partner' doesn't stand any chance of success when the OP is still married to another EEA national which in addition is deemed not to be a genuine relationship, even after an appeal. Apart from which, a five month relationship falls way short of the 24 months that the authorities will consider to meet the durable partnership rules. And whatever do you mean by "wait until his girlfriend is put to bed'!toni34 wrote:You don't need to divorce the first one before you get the RC , what I would advise him is to wait till his girl friend put to bed then apply as an unmarried partner , he would need to show that his first relationship has broken down irretrievably and he is now in a marriage like relationship with this new partner .sandy88 wrote:Hi there
It's a bit complicated situation. Have you legally separated from your ex wife ? If no you will need to be legally devorced before your next wedding , as you have pending case with home office they may suspect your case.
Although you don't need a legal status in the uk to marry a EEA national but when you go to registry you will have to produce your passport ( if this with home office you will have to request an attested copy from them saying your intention ) without that registrars won't be allow you to give notice.
Again, new referral scheme came to practice in last year if you don't have a permanent visa in the Uk the registrar will refer your case to home office to investigate .. It can take Upto 70 days to finalise . Home office will let you know the outcome whether to investigate or not . Then only marriage will be conducted ,
My understanding is any application for RC needs to satisfy HO that any previous relationship has permanently broken down.Casa wrote:I don't usually say this..but absolute rubbish! An application under EEA regulations as a 'durable partner' doesn't stand any chance of success when the OP is still married to another EEA national which in addition is deemed not to be a genuine relationship, even after an appeal. Apart from which, a five month relationship falls way short of the 24 months that the authorities will consider to meet the durable partnership rules. And whatever do you mean by "wait until his girlfriend is put to bed'!
I agree with you, that a decree absolute could well be evidence that a relationship is not subsisting, but I have difficulty in accepting that this is an exhustive list.Casa wrote:Regarding the previous marriage (which the HO don't accept as genuine) referring to case worker guidance when considering a durable partnership application, in order to prove the marriage is no longer subsisting the following would evidence would be expected:
Proof that any previous relationship has permanently broken down:
o degree absolute for marriages
o dissolution order for civil partnerships.
What I meant is when the girlfriend gives birth , back to the issue at hand , my elder brother successfully gave is then girlfriend RC as an unmarried partner before he divorced his wife officially .Casa wrote:I don't usually say this..but absolute rubbish! An application under EEA regulations as a 'durable partner' doesn't stand any chance of success when the OP is still married to another EEA national which in addition is deemed not to be a genuine relationship, even after an appeal. Apart from which, a five month relationship falls way short of the 24 months that the authorities will consider to meet the durable partnership rules. And whatever do you mean by "wait until his girlfriend is put to bed'!toni34 wrote:You don't need to divorce the first one before you get the RC , what I would advise him is to wait till his girl friend put to bed then apply as an unmarried partner , he would need to show that his first relationship has broken down irretrievably and he is now in a marriage like relationship with this new partner .sandy88 wrote:Hi there
It's a bit complicated situation. Have you legally separated from your ex wife ? If no you will need to be legally devorced before your next wedding , as you have pending case with home office they may suspect your case.
Although you don't need a legal status in the uk to marry a EEA national but when you go to registry you will have to produce your passport ( if this with home office you will have to request an attested copy from them saying your intention ) without that registrars won't be allow you to give notice.
Again, new referral scheme came to practice in last year if you don't have a permanent visa in the Uk the registrar will refer your case to home office to investigate .. It can take Upto 70 days to finalise . Home office will let you know the outcome whether to investigate or not . Then only marriage will be conducted ,
I beg to differ. As a native English speaker 'put to bed' means to 'put aside' i.e. do whatever is necessary and forget about it.Obie wrote:I believe the phrase "put to bed" indicates giving birth.
postpartum = following childbirth.Obie wrote:Ok wanderer . I try my best , but I will never be in your league of native speaker for the rest of my days.
Thanks for the enlightenment. But in a case of this sort, context matters. In this context, I believe Toni was referring to post - parturition if that is the correct word.
I stand to be corrected by the Native speakers.
"Put to bed means "to give birth and I am not here to argue English language am more interested in real issues affecting eu applications .Wanderer wrote:I beg to differ. As a native English speaker 'put to bed' means to 'put aside' i.e. do whatever is necessary and forget about it.Obie wrote:I believe the phrase "put to bed" indicates giving birth.
Implication is 'sort it and forget it...' in a slightly brutal way....
Actually no it doesn't....toni34 wrote:"Put to bed means "to give birth and I am not here to argue English language am more interested in real issues affecting eu applications .Wanderer wrote:I beg to differ. As a native English speaker 'put to bed' means to 'put aside' i.e. do whatever is necessary and forget about it.Obie wrote:I believe the phrase "put to bed" indicates giving birth.
Implication is 'sort it and forget it...' in a slightly brutal way....
It is posible the OP misused the expression, if so I apologise for not reading the whole thread, I scarcely have time to read fully nowadays, - I do read, but it doesn't sink in anymore...Obie wrote:I accept you and wanderer view, It is perfectly correct.
In the English context.
As a person who has had the privilege of living in both Anglophone nations in Western Africa, and in the UK, I believe there are 2 possible interpretation.
If an English person use that word to me, I will understand it in a different context, than if it was used by an African from a particular region of AFRICA
Wanderer it appears to be Nigeria English according to this forum:Wanderer wrote:I beg to differ. As a native English speaker 'put to bed' means to 'put aside' i.e. do whatever is necessary and forget about it.Obie wrote:I believe the phrase "put to bed" indicates giving birth.
Implication is 'sort it and forget it...' in a slightly brutal way....