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That is a very interesting indeed. It never occurred to me that it could be possible (and it seems one person in the thread achieved this) of having a Tier 2 and a EEA at exactly the same time running simultaneously. This raises so many more questions but i feel relieved to have something to work with here and get me going.noajthan wrote:Interesting question in a similar sort of case:
eea-route-applications/can-i-have-tier2 ... 70859.html
You are not eligible for 1.diego-560 wrote:1. https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-flrm
Your understanding seems to be on right track.diego-560 wrote:Cheers Casa, Noajthan and Vinny.
I've been reading constantly the last 24 hrs. It has helped so much to be pointed in the right direction. I wasted many months sporadically researching visas and getting nowhere, but now with your help I've been able to confirm a few details.
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Questions:
- If the UK Residency Card really will be issued on its own plastic, can I request my passport back early in the process, say after 2 months? I would assume they can take what they need from it and return it. I really will have no other form of ID the entire time and without my passport I cannot do anything requiring identification including being able to travel internationally. Or would this provoke them to reject the application?
- I did not live together with my partner before we moved to the UK. Does this matter? The form seems to convey a sense of dependency involved for family members however it seems to exclude this condition from the 'unmarried partner' section, but I think I am just inferring this point. But then I see references to whether or not I was (or if I am still) part of the same 'household' as my EEA partner. Of course I am, and for the last 3 years we have lived together, all within the UK, but the fact remains we did not live together before the UK. Is this a deal breaker? I feel a confused on this point.
I am so grateful for all of your time and efforts, I am super excited to press forward if I have a chance here.
Noajthan, many thanks for coming back with these points for me to think about.noajthan wrote:noajthan
Yes, correct. For this reason, I asked for all our documents back, BRP and passports. I included a prepaid envelope with my application, and received the documents back almost immediately. See my timeline.diego-560 wrote: Am I correct in that although the COA won't allow me to work, my current Tier 2 will continue to cover me so long as I am with my current employer?
If you both lived at one address, then both moved to another, then of course it does not matter. People have the right to move. A different story would be if one of you moved out somewhere else whilst the other one stayed at another address.whilst we have been living together since April 2013 continually until present, the first year was spent at one address, and the next nearly two years were spent at a different address. Would you happen to know if this really matters in testing the robustness of the relationship i.e. that it was not all in one address?
However what it really comes down to, is, we have a really dodgy looking contract between ourselves and the landlord at the first place for a year, and we can evidence both our names on the lease, except the lease itself is riddled with typos, was drawn up by a company that was actually struck off Companies House even before the lease started, and in general just looks very suspect. The landlord was not above board I think.
Our second place is a professionally written contract with a proper agency and our two year mark at this current place will be from the 1st of May this year.
What are your thoughts on if i were to apply now, vs. waiting until May? I am itching to apply but I don't want to have to fight for a year to appeal if rejected.
I do not think they would cross check at all, and even if they did, you ARE single, as your are unmarried so that is not contradictory information. I am assuming this was also my case as I also applied for my Tier 2 visa through a specialized immigraiton company in London and they handled everything. For my EEA RC I handled everything single handedly and did not have a problem.EDIT: I just checked my original Tier 2 application which was completed by my employer's in house legal team (it is a large bank based in London) as I have a PDF copy. They marked me as 'SINGLE' on my application in February 2015 as I was not married to my partner. Will the HO retrieve this application and fail me on this, despite me having a mountain of evidence that I am indeed in a relationship with my partner for YEARS although we are not married - I am not single?!
Oh yes, in that case I advise you wait until May.diego-560 wrote:
We did not have a joint bank account at our first residence, nor our names on any of the bills. It was all run by the dodgy landlord.
Our current place we have our names on the tenancy, with rent paid via a joint bank account, and jointly named utility bills and council tax covering (what will be) the entire period May 2014 to May 2016.
Indeed. I got the idea from another poster just before I prepared everything, and it paid off! I advise you to explain to the person at the post office what you want to do with the envelope, because they may need to weight the contents you want returned, so that they can calculate the correct price and put a stamp on the envelope before you send it (I have read posts of people complaining about the HO not using the envelopes they send, I reckon, because they maybe used the generic envelopes that allow for only a maximum weight). See my earlier post about the exact steps I took here: http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... l#p1241157I'm also very happy that you received your passport back so promptly and you had the foresight to include a prepaid courier bag presumably already with your address written on it. I'm sure that sort of preparation makes it that little bit easier for the HO to comply with you as quickly as possible as it's minimal effort on their part. It's an excellent idea and I will do the same!
Yes, do let me know how it goes for you!Thank you for also putting me at ease re: the 'single' designation on my Tier 2. I do hope you are right. I'll be sure to check in with you to let you know how it goes. Even if that's quite far in the future.
FP = Family Permit. This is all a funny story, and to be brief: Once you are in the UK you do NOT need to apply for a Family Permit, it being an entry clearance to allow non-EEA family members to enter the UK. It's valid only for 6 months, so not really what you are after when switching visas. I applied only because I created a silly situation where I ended up not having a valid visa while awaiting my RC, and might have faced denial of entry in the UK when returning from our holiday abroad. Good thing is our holiday was in Colombia, my home country, where I could apply for a Family Permit, and I got it. Problem solved. See whole story here:Can I ask you what you mean in your timeline with the following? This is the only part I don't understand.
"FP app abroad: 21.01.16
FP issued : 27.01.16"
Hi Kamoe,kamoe wrote:Hi Diego
I recently switched from a Tier 2 visa to a EFM EEA RC, so pretty much your same situation. I can share my experience.Yes, correct. For this reason, I asked for all our documents back, BRP and passports. I included a prepaid envelope with my application, and received the documents back almost immediately. See my timeline.diego-560 wrote: Am I correct in that although the COA won't allow me to work, my current Tier 2 will continue to cover me so long as I am with my current employer?
If you both lived at one address, then both moved to another, then of course it does not matter. People have the right to move. A different story would be if one of you moved out somewhere else whilst the other one stayed at another address.whilst we have been living together since April 2013 continually until present, the first year was spent at one address, and the next nearly two years were spent at a different address. Would you happen to know if this really matters in testing the robustness of the relationship i.e. that it was not all in one address?
However what it really comes down to, is, we have a really dodgy looking contract between ourselves and the landlord at the first place for a year, and we can evidence both our names on the lease, except the lease itself is riddled with typos, was drawn up by a company that was actually struck off Companies House even before the lease started, and in general just looks very suspect. The landlord was not above board I think.
Our second place is a professionally written contract with a proper agency and our two year mark at this current place will be from the 1st of May this year.
You do not necessarily need to provide your tenancy agreement. As long as you can provide 6 pieces of correspondence, like bills and joint bank statements addressed jointly to the both of you, to the address you claim you have lived at, you will be fine.What are your thoughts on if i were to apply now, vs. waiting until May? I am itching to apply but I don't want to have to fight for a year to appeal if rejected.
As long as you can provide at least two pieces of correspondence (bills, council tax, joint bank account) addressed jointly to the both of you to the first address during 2013, then 4 other documents addressed to jointly to the both of you to the second address, from 2014 to 2016, then you are fine to apply now.I do not think they would cross check at all, and even if they did, you ARE single, as your are unmarried so that is not contradictory information. I am assuming this was also my case as I also applied for my Tier 2 visa through a specialized immigraiton company in London and they handled everything. For my EEA RC I handled everything single handedly and did not have a problem.EDIT: I just checked my original Tier 2 application which was completed by my employer's in house legal team (it is a large bank based in London) as I have a PDF copy. They marked me as 'SINGLE' on my application in February 2015 as I was not married to my partner. Will the HO retrieve this application and fail me on this, despite me having a mountain of evidence that I am indeed in a relationship with my partner for YEARS although we are not married - I am not single?!