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That is a great blog, most informative & sound advice. But if you are organised & methodical you should be able to apply by yourselves.monkeyface wrote:...
Started filling in long and complicated form EEA PR. However, just came across this blog entry https://www.freemovement.org.uk/downloa ... in-the-uk/ which seems to think people can still use the much shorter and less complicated forms (EEA1 or EEA2 or covering letter). Does anyone have any experience of applying using these forms or a covering letter?
You must obviously pay the relevant fees. It is just that you do not have to use the form itself, so long as all relevant information is there.A letter requesting a document certifying permanent residence or permanent residence card, or an application made on one of the previous forms (EEA3 or EEA4), is acceptable as long as:
the correct fee is submitted with the application
the applicant gives their biometric information if they are a non-EEA national applying on or after 6 April 2015
if the form is not the latest version, that is fine, even a letter is fine, so long as it is accompanied with the correct fee.monkeyface wrote:Would the department that deals with Permanent Residency really accept an application on an earlier form or just a letter without the fee associated with form EEA (PR)? What happens if it is refused because the form is not the lastest version?
I thought I already hadmonkeyface wrote:...
Can someone just confirm that he doesn't need to use form EA PPR, can use the earlier form(s) EEA 1/2/3 and his application still has a high chance of being accepted? Thank you.
See https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s_v3_0.pdfHowever,applicants do not have to use these forms and an application for any of the documents mentioned above must not be refused because it has not been made on the appropriate form.
A letter asking for a document to be issued, or an application made on one of the previous forms (see below) is acceptable, provided the applicant:
- submits the specified fee with the application;
gives their biometric information,if they are a non-EEA national applying on or after 6 April2015;
That is a bizarre & puzzling statement from your solicitor.monkeyface wrote:The solicitor also said that basically as long as you are an EEA national who has completed the 5 year requirement then they don't really have a reason not to grant permanent residence and that the PR form is just fishing for more information than they are actually legally required to know. However, he said the PR form would probably get a quicker turnaround time.
noajthan wrote:HO guidance itself states that is acceptable to apply via alternate methods so it would be troubling if there is indeed a two-tier system for processing.
I don't think that the applicant is penalised for being difficult, I think the applicant is indirectly penalised for being different.monkeyface wrote:We just saw a (Citizens advice type free) immigration solicitor who said that he thought the Home Office would purposely take a lot longer to complete an application if it was on one of the old forms as the applicant would be seen as "being difficult".
Furthermore, if HO was to adopt Kanban methods they would swarm on applications that proved to be chokepoints (all hands to the pumps, if you will) & in that way break the log jam and keep up a goodly flow rate.secret.simon wrote:The same principle that applies to software engineering applies to human engineering as well; KISS (keep it simple, stupid).
monkeyface wrote:the Home Office EEA Applications in Durham
An EEA(PR) form can be used to submit an application. However, you must not refuse or reject an application because it is not on the right form. A letter requesting a document certifying permanent residence or permanent residence card, or an application made on one of the previous forms (EEA3 or EEA4), is acceptable as long as:
the correct fee is submitted with the application
the applicant gives their biometric information if they are a non-EEA national applying on or after 6 April 2015