sp84 wrote:
Yea at the minute there has not been any timescales discussed. If the vote is to stay in - all we know is that the changes will come into effect "once the UK informs the EU Commission of its desire to remain in the EU". Does this mean the very next day (so the 24th/25th)? Does it mean that other laws etc will have to be amended to reflect the new changes (both EU law and local Government law etc).
If the vote is out - does that mean that all of the current rules stay in place, regarding EU permits, Surinder Singh etc until they actually leave. I did see that in the event of a leave vote - it would take time to negotiate the exit, seeing as it will have an impact on free movement, trade, the economy etc a rumoured date was by 2019. On the flip side - I did see an article in which Boris Johnson had apparently said, if there is a vote to leave - the UK should pretty much ignore EU law from that point on, even though they will technically still be a member ... So who knows what is going on!
My biggest fear at the minute is the transitional rules - mainly because they haven't been discussed/disclosed - for example, if nothing changes between now and the vote, then EU family permits should be able to be issued right up until at least June 22nd right?? ... So what happens if someone has a valid family permit and comes in to the UK a week after the vote happens. Can that family then be asked to leave, even though they entered the country legally, if that makes sense. It was something that I had not thought about until recently - I just don't want this whole thing to be for nothing ... Get back before the vote and still get asked (well told) to leave.
In terms of my application magicmus - I got my confirmation number and the money taken out of my account Dec 1st. So at the end of February, I will be 3 months into processing. At the earliest, I am hoping to get it back in mid-April and at the latest, it will be the end of May (hence why I am going to change my mailing address to my family home in Belfast, so that at least someone in my family can get their hands on it quickly)!
I don't think anyone will have applied for the FP with just the confirmation letter - mainly because time hasn't been as much of an issue as it is now I suppose. With the FP though, from what I understand - you can always apply, then reapply (correct me if I am wrong).
Trust me, I totally understand what you mean about it consuming you! I'm struggling to sleep and am constantly checking online for updates/new stories. Must be why I have had a few more greys coming through haha!
Yes I can understand the confusion say you got your fp on 20th June came to the uk would you then not be able to apply for residency card and be told to leave after 6 months?
At the moment I think my chances of being able to apply for fp are zero as I'm only sending my rn tomorrow. I am in the fortunate position that I earn enough to meet the UK spouse visa but had worried that our visit visa ban of 10 years would impact any further UK visa applications. But my husband is trying to keep my spirits up "as one door closes another opens" but I'm so sick and tired of life being on hold for us I want to be starting a family in the next 2 years and I just couldn't bring myself to do that whilst living apart.
I have been messaging my solicitor tonight;
Me:Hi firstly I apologise that I have been a torture recently. With all the Eu exit talk and dc's deal I just consumed with the "what ifs"
Stupid question really as I think I know the answer. Could we apply for fp using the letter confirming rn application has been received and a statement showing the deduction of the fee from the ho? Or do they need the official stamped document?
Solicitor:You can apply certainly but really you would need to have the renunciation through by the time you submit the papers at the visa application centre, producing what you suggest is just going to give them an easy option to refuse.
Me: Yeh pretty much what I thought. I'm still waiting on my Irish passport card apparently there is a back log.
If we vote to stay in the Eu in June does this mean we can no longer apply for eea fp?
Solicitor:All remains to be seen, you should this about just sending a certified copy of the passport and tell them you have to travel. You need to get the renunciation started. Possibly an EU exit vote to leave the EU could give you more time as there will be more negotiation required on the exit terms and dates etc?
Me:Yes I was going to just send my irish passport tomorrow and ask if they can return it asap as I need it for travelling. I have contacted the sdlp office as
blank advised me they contacted the HO to try and progress her RN quicker. Anyhow they said once I have a reference they can certainly call to track progress but I imagine this won't speed things up.
I'm wondering if I shud just forget about rn and just apply UK spouse just concerned our visit visa ban would impact decision of this?
Solicitor:As you are now married the ban should not block a spouse visa, you can do both as you can apply for the spouse visa on the strength of your Irish nationality. If I were you I would do both.
So I shall send my rn tomorrow and just see what the future holds. I'm so annoyed I didn't learn of this option about a year ago
I really hope sp84 you get your RN asap and can get your fp before the referendum