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Where does it say thisgnua88 wrote: In the AN, it states that if I need a BRP card after naturalisation, I can apply for one ;
Where in the forum does it say this, what page number and what section number?gnua88 wrote:In the AN, it states that if I need a BRP card after naturalisation, I can apply for one ;
AN Form, Page 24 of 31, Section 6.11 - Do you want the Home Office to retain your BRP?ohara wrote:Where does it say thisgnua88 wrote: In the AN, it states that if I need a BRP card after naturalisation, I can apply for one ;
Ah, I see your point. So, it's intended for in case of refusal, is it? That makes sense...ohara wrote:I think you have interpreted it wrong, it's more a case of needing a BRP if your naturalisation application is refused etc. You certainly don't need a BRP after you naturalise and I don't think it's even possible to get one if you are British
Need a BRP for what? Stating ILR? ILR is invalidated and cancelled once you become British. You can't get a BRP that say you are 'British', they don't exist.gnua88 wrote:I understand BRP isn't relevant after naturalisation, yet I may have a scenario where I might have a requirement...(I don't want to get into details) which is why I'm quite curious about this.
Yeah, I didn't know BRP didn't exist for Naturalised citizens. That text I quoted earlier, I thought it meant there was oneCR001 wrote:Need a BRP for what? Stating ILR? ILR is invalidated and cancelled once you become British. You can't get a BRP that say you are 'British', they don't exist.gnua88 wrote:I understand BRP isn't relevant after naturalisation, yet I may have a scenario where I might have a requirement...(I don't want to get into details) which is why I'm quite curious about this.
It's kinda like a vignette that goes in your foreign passport and allows you to enter the UK unrestricted and without a British passport.gnua88 wrote:I'm originally from outside the EEA and not part of Commonwealth either so I'm not sure if I would qualify that. But if yes, will that sticker be on my other passport?
Also, do you know exactly what it'd say? Would it say that I'm a citizen, etc? Or would it just say I'm entitled to work, live, etc. in the UK?
I appreciate your replies. Thank you.
That might just work, it looks awesome. Thank you!ohara wrote:It's kinda like a vignette that goes in your foreign passport and allows you to enter the UK unrestricted and without a British passport.gnua88 wrote:I'm originally from outside the EEA and not part of Commonwealth either so I'm not sure if I would qualify that. But if yes, will that sticker be on my other passport?
Also, do you know exactly what it'd say? Would it say that I'm a citizen, etc? Or would it just say I'm entitled to work, live, etc. in the UK?
I appreciate your replies. Thank you.
Remember that these expire with your foreign passport and you would have to reapply for it each time and will cost £472 from 18th March. British passport is substantially cheaper.gnua88 wrote:That might just work, it looks awesome. Thank you!ohara wrote:It's kinda like a vignette that goes in your foreign passport and allows you to enter the UK unrestricted and without a British passport.gnua88 wrote:I'm originally from outside the EEA and not part of Commonwealth either so I'm not sure if I would qualify that. But if yes, will that sticker be on my other passport?
Also, do you know exactly what it'd say? Would it say that I'm a citizen, etc? Or would it just say I'm entitled to work, live, etc. in the UK?
I appreciate your replies. Thank you.
I'll look into that.
You've sort of isolated what I'm trying to find out, haven't you lol. I was trying to dance around this but no, it doesn't.CR001 wrote: Does your home country allow dual nationality?
Nope though you're not far off haha.Is it India by any chance?
Yeah, I hear you both. There are some disadvantages of losing my home country's citizenship though the advantages of naturalisation far outweigh them. Still, I guess I need to give me a little more thought.There is no way that you can 'beat the system' if your country does not allow dual nationality. Only British Citizens can get CoE or RoA, so it will be known you are British by choice.
If you don't want to lose your foreign citizenship, the only option you have is to NOT apply for British citizenship. You cannot have the 'best of both' unfortunately. You will lose your home country citizenship automatically as soon as you attend your ceremony.gnua88 wrote:Yeah, I hear you both. There are some disadvantages of losing my home country's citizenship though the advantages of naturalisation far outweigh them. Still, I guess I need to give me a little more thought.
Thanks for the replies.
The UK is fine with dual-citizenship as with quite a few other countries. It's my home country that's at fault.....so frustrating. I then would have to apply for a visa to go back, go figure lol.CR001 wrote:If you don't want to lose your foreign citizenship, the only option you have is to NOT apply for British citizenship. You cannot have the 'best of both' unfortunately. You will lose your home country citizenship automatically as soon as you attend your ceremony.gnua88 wrote:Yeah, I hear you both. There are some disadvantages of losing my home country's citizenship though the advantages of naturalisation far outweigh them. Still, I guess I need to give me a little more thought.
Thanks for the replies.
That's not quite true. There are Commonwealth citizens born before 1983 who have Right of Abode. In particular Singaporeans, Malaysians and Indians may have Right of Abode but no form of British nationality.CR001 wrote:There is no way that you can 'beat the system' if your country does not allow dual nationality. Only British Citizens can get CoE or RoA, so it will be known you are British by choice.
My answer was relevant to the OPs question about naturalisation. You are again posting a point that is not relevant and will confuse rather than help.Richard W wrote:That's not quite true. There are Commonwealth citizens born before 1983 who have Right of Abode. In particular Singaporeans, Malaysians and Indians may have Right of Abode but no form of British nationality.CR001 wrote:There is no way that you can 'beat the system' if your country does not allow dual nationality. Only British Citizens can get CoE or RoA, so it will be known you are British by choice.
I'm not so sure. If the OP is young, maintaining a BRP for life could get quite onerous. 60 years worth of utility bills is a lot to supply towards the end of one's life. The penalties for failing in renewing one's BRP may include dismissal (TUPE) and soon, I suspect, homelessness.CR001 wrote:No one is forcing the OP to apply are they?
That's an extreme and rather pessimistic view (dismissal/homelessness)! 10 year renewal of the BRP is in line with British passport and photo card driving licence renewal and we all seem to manage that without any problem.Richard W wrote:I'm not so sure. If the OP is young, maintaining a BRP for life could get quite onerous. 60 years worth of utility bills is a lot to supply towards the end of one's life. The penalties for failing in renewing one's BRP may include dismissal (TUPE) and soon, I suspect, homelessness.CR001 wrote:No one is forcing the OP to apply are they?
That's an extreme and rather pessimistic view (dismissal/homelessness)! 10 year renewal of the BRP is in line with British passport and photo card driving licence renewal and we all seem to manage that without any problem.
Thankfully, I'm a working professional with a sufficient amount of income so money isn't the issue here. I LOVE the UK and this is home to me so I take the naturalisation seriously, and proudly. But obviously, I still have some ties to the birth country which I have to take into consideration. So for now, I'm just going to keep the ILR BRP.I'm not so sure. If the OP is young, maintaining a BRP for life could get quite onerous. 60 years worth of utility bills is a lot to supply towards the end of one's life. The penalties for failing in renewing one's BRP may include dismissal (TUPE) and soon, I suspect, homelessness.
My last comment on your analysis. Not sure why you think '60 years worth of utility bills' would be required just to renew a BRP ILR card or perhaps later on after a few years applying for citizenship, when these documents are not required now if following the UK immigration route of visa>>ILR>>BC.Richard W wrote:I'm not so sure. If the OP is young, maintaining a BRP for life could get quite onerous. 60 years worth of utility bills is a lot to supply towards the end of one's life. The penalties for failing in renewing one's BRP may include dismissal (TUPE) and soon, I suspect, homelessness.