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Is it possible to apply for british citizenship for my son, as well? He was not born in the UK, but has been living here since he was 4 months old.vinny wrote:MN1.
tier2013 wrote:Is it possible to apply for british citizenship for my son, as well? He was not born in the UK, but has been living here since he was 4 months old.vinny wrote:MN1.
Or will I have to apply for ILR for him?
God-helpus wrote:Dear Members
I have booked appointments for ILR for myself and 3 dependants on 9 March.
After reading at this forum, it seems I do not need to get the ILR for my son who was born in UK and can directly file for citizenship after my ILR.
But I have already paid the full fees for all and applicants
How can I get refund for 1 application of my son as he was born in UK?
I do not wish to cancel the appointment for all of us. Is there a number where I can call and speak to them?
Thanks
Amit
Children born abroad are expected to hold ILR (free from immigration time restrictions) to be eligible for citizenship. A child born abroad is an application at HO discretion and there have been many refusals with people thinking they can skip ILR to save money.scorpio81 wrote:tier2013 wrote:Is it possible to apply for british citizenship for my son, as well? He was not born in the UK, but has been living here since he was 4 months old.vinny wrote:MN1.
Or will I have to apply for ILR for him?
Think you can apply for his naturalization on form MN1 (child under 18).
Is there guidance issued by the Home Office for this decision?CR001 wrote:Children born abroad are expected to hold ILR (free from immigration time restrictions) to be eligible for citizenship. A child born abroad is an application at HO discretion and there have been many refusals with people thinking they can skip ILR to save money.scorpio81 wrote:Think you can apply for his naturalization on form MN1 (child under 18).
Naturally. We don't just make this stuff up here.tier2013 wrote:Is there guidance issued by the Home Office for this decision?CR001 wrote:Children born abroad are expected to hold ILR (free from immigration time restrictions) to be eligible for citizenship. A child born abroad is an application at HO discretion and there have been many refusals with people thinking they can skip ILR to save money.scorpio81 wrote:Think you can apply for his naturalization on form MN1 (child under 18).
You must also bear in mind that there are no appeal processes for refused citizenship applications and requests for reconsideration can take many many months and in that time, the child will have no visa or ILR and be stuck in the UK.9.17.24
We should normally expect a minor to be free of conditions of stay because the future of a child whose stay is restricted does not clearly lie here (see 9.17.2). Registering a minor who is on conditions has the effect of cancelling their conditions because, on becoming a British citizen, the minor would cease to be subject to immigration control.
CR001 wrote:In noajthan's link, see particularly point 9.17.24, the key words are 'free of conditions of stay' i.e. ILR.
You must also bear in mind that there are no appeal processes for refused citizenship applications and requests for reconsideration can take many many months and in that time, the child will have no visa or ILR and be stuck in the UK.9.17.24
We should normally expect a minor to be free of conditions of stay because the future of a child whose stay is restricted does not clearly lie here (see 9.17.2). Registering a minor who is on conditions has the effect of cancelling their conditions because, on becoming a British citizen, the minor would cease to be subject to immigration control.
In the application form MN1, under what section of the British Nationality Act 1981 would this be considered?CR001 wrote:In noajthan's link, see particularly point 9.17.24, the key words are 'free of conditions of stay' i.e. ILR.
You must also bear in mind that there are no appeal processes for refused citizenship applications and requests for reconsideration can take many many months and in that time, the child will have no visa or ILR and be stuck in the UK.9.17.24
We should normally expect a minor to be free of conditions of stay because the future of a child whose stay is restricted does not clearly lie here (see 9.17.2). Registering a minor who is on conditions has the effect of cancelling their conditions because, on becoming a British citizen, the minor would cease to be subject to immigration control.
1) Originals required or apply via NCS who will make official copies.tier2013 wrote:I'm planning to send MN1 but am unclear about the following:
1. Are photocopies acceptable as documentary evidence? Or will they need to be certified by a Solicitor?
2. How do I send the fees?
Thank you
noajthan wrote:1) Originals required or apply via NCS who will make official copies.tier2013 wrote:I'm planning to send MN1 but am unclear about the following:
1. Are photocopies acceptable as documentary evidence? Or will they need to be certified by a Solicitor?
2. How do I send the fees?
Thank you
2) Google current fees document
Thank you.vinny wrote:"Not applicable".
NCS will COPY your documents and give you the originals back. Use the orginals for the ILR applications. NCS is for citizenship, not ILR. Which application do you want to post?tier2013 wrote:noajthan wrote:1) Originals required or apply via NCS who will make official copies.tier2013 wrote:I'm planning to send MN1 but am unclear about the following:
1. Are photocopies acceptable as documentary evidence? Or will they need to be certified by a Solicitor?
2. How do I send the fees?
Thank you
2) Google current fees document
Thank you for your reply.
I am facing a bit of a dilemma with documentation: I need to apply for naturalisation for my daughter, ILR for my son and ILR for my wife.
My wife has booked an appointment to apply in person on the 23rd of March. I would like to post the other applications before the 18th, but obviously I only have one set of original documents to send away.
The Nationality checking service informs me that they can only do the check on my daughter's application, not my son's.
Would the home office accept a copy of the documentation (certified by a solicitor) under such circs?
Thanks in advance.
Minors are not naturalised but registered.tier2013 wrote:How long do the Home office take before they respond to the application for naturalisation? It has been a few days since the MN1 form was received but they haven't taken the fees, yet. They have taken the £1500 for my son's ILR application, but haven't sent an acknowledgement.
How long should I leave it before I make contact and chase this up with the Home Office?
Thank you for your replies
Good news indeed.tier2013 wrote:Fortunately, my daughter's registration has gone through, and the Home Office have returned all the documents. Still waiting for an outcome for my son's application, but I suppose it will take 6 to 8 months.
At this stage, I'm wondering if there are any advantages to applying for my daughter's British passport. Are there any drawbacks to leaving it for a year, by which time my son's ILR would also have come through and he would, hopefully, have completed a year on ILR, thereby allowing me to apply for passports for both children simultaneously?
I'd also like to thank everyone here who has replied to my posts and guided me in this matter.
M