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At this point, the 75 points for FLR are garnered in much the same way as initial approval, e.g. on the bases of education, earnings, age, UK experience, etc. See the link for what you can broadly expect for tier 1, esp. the recent SoI: http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... s/pbsdocs/Brian Anderson wrote:What does it take to reach these 75 points? Any link on the gov.uk web site that provides this info?
I believe that rule applies if you have not got your HSMP approval already, otherwise everybody will get their HSMP and study for a year and show the income which was already used for the HSMP approval.Brian Anderson wrote:Can I bring your attention to this points calculator:
http://www.workpermit.com/uk/hsmp_exten ... ulator.htm
In the secion that says Earning Power, you're required to give the "Income over last 12 months in UK Currency (if you are a student for the 12 months before you became a student)"
Doesn't this imply that you really don't need to show an income/earning while you were a student, and that its sufficient to show the 12 months prior to becoming a student?
Hmm.. I don't think so. The points calculator clearly states that if "You were granted HSMP for 12 months or less" you're required to show your "Income over last 8 months in UK Currency (if you are a student for the 8 months before you became a student)."olisun wrote:I believe that rule applies if you have not got your HSMP approval already
You are referering to the details on the worpermit.com website and not the bia website.Brian Anderson wrote:Hmm.. I don't think so. The points calculator clearly states that if "You were granted HSMP for 12 months or less" you're required to show your "Income over last 8 months in UK Currency (if you are a student for the 8 months before you became a student)."olisun wrote:I believe that rule applies if you have not got your HSMP approval already
Gordon, thanks again for your really helpful answer. My situation is that I'm hoping to leave to UK on HSMP as soon as possible. I also got an offer from a top (Grade 5) University in UK to follow a Masters program in a specialized field. I really value this offer a lot and don't want to miss this opportunity. The course starts on October 2008.gordon wrote:That said, I don't see that there's very much of a problem. Initial leave under HSMP is currently two years (the SoI suggests that this will become three years under the new tier system). Even under current terms, someone could get entry clearance under HSMP and spend the first year as a full-time student and the second year working - and then potentially still have sufficient earnings to get the second round of FLR. Such a scenario would be even easier if initial leave were extended to three years.
But I think that's the problem: it's not clear to me that the FLR application allows an exclusion for full-time study (except for the initial application) when calculating earnings points.Brian Anderson wrote:The course starts on October 2008. [...]
I could meet the points requirements (given that I would also get extra 5 points for my Masters degree) and provided that I have a good income and could also show a 12 month period of income (excluding the time I was studying).
Thanks again Gordon, your responses were really helpful.gordon wrote:Noises have been made (by Liam Byrne, according to Hansard) that tier 1 will be implemented in March, and according to the recent SoI, the tier will issue three-year initial visas. As your course starts in October, it seems to me that you might consider holding off a few months -- given what you want to do, I would think it more reasonable to wait until they start issuing three-year initial visas. If you were to come here with a three-year initial visa under tier 1, your earnings period would not overlap with your study period when you apply for a subsequent round of FLR. That sould strike me as less risky a strategy.
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"If you have been unable to earn income for the last 12-15 months due to undertaking full-time study we will consider your income for a 12 month period in the 15 month immediately prior to you becoming a full-time student."
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