FLR(m) Letter of (previous) empolyment

[azo]

I have just received an email from my previous employment stating they are going to issue the a letter explaining my income for the last 12 months etc with an attached copy of the letter they are going to print out. However, I worried that it may not be good enough so I have two questions.

1) The letter headed paper seems to be a computer generated layout (but it contains all the details of the Company's address, registration number etc, will this be good enough?

2) I have the feeling that the signature, of the general manager, is going to be a scanned cut and paste - so will this be good enough?

Regards

I should know I have all the payslips and bank details to go with this.

[CR001]

Does the FLR(M) form ask for previous employment letter?

[azo]

[quote="CR001"]Does the FLR(M) form ask for previous employment letter?[/quote]

No, but I am currently unemployed as of March 11 and we plan to make an application on the 10 of April (my wife's visa runs out at the 25th April).

I was thinking along the lines of if I can show that I worked for the last 2 odd years, earning more than the required amount, that along with my savings (£26K+ and my qualifications, Ph.D, and several years post-doctoring experience and showing them I have already been for 6 interviews etc) it would go in my wife's favour.

I have briefly spoken to an immigration lawyer on the phone about this and was told that I do have a good chance because they don't like people being long term unemployed, and as it will had only been like 4 weeks (at the time of application - I intend to apply at a walk in centre).

But with that said I would like to know the answers to the questions in the above opening post - assuming here that the letter is for current employment.

regards

[CR001]

You need to prove your current employment with payslips and bank statements and that your employment is 'ongoing'. To rely wholly on savings to meet the financial requirement, you need substantially more than what you have.

Does your spouse work?

There is no 'walk in' service, 'walk in' being that you can just arrive and submit. You have to make an appointment online at one of the centres and pay the visa fee and immigration health surcharge upfront.

[azo]

[quote="CR001"]You need to prove your current employment with payslips and bank statements and that your employment is 'ongoing'. To rely wholly on savings to meet the financial requirement, you need substantially more than what you have.

Does your spouse work?

There is no 'walk in' service, 'walk in' being that you can just arrive and submit. You have to make an appointment online at one of the centres and pay the visa fee and immigration health surcharge upfront.[/quote]

Unfortunately, my wife does not work which I know goes against the application being successful.

I do know that £60k+ would help me

I mean the one day express service, at one of the several national centres

[azo]

I should add that I am expecting replies back from two companies this week and that both seem pleased in my past experience(s) and qualifications.

However, with all the arguing about the term "ongoing", I would really like to know about the answers to my original questions, as we plan to visit an immigration lawyer later in this week for further advice and I would rather sort out this letter and getting it in the right format rather than if it being previous or current employment at the moment.

regards

[Casa]

It is never advisable to apply through the PSC is the application isn't 100% straightforward and the UKVI website advises against this. PSCs Case Workers are only of a junior level and simply don't have the seniority to made a decision. You stand more chance of an approval if you apply by post. If you don't qualify for FLR(M), you should be issued with a FLR(FP) visa at the Case Worker's discretion.

[azo]

[quote="Casa"]It is never advisable to apply through the PSC is the application isn't 100% straightforward and the UKVI website advises against this. PSCs Case Workers are only of a junior level and simply don't have the seniority to made a decision. You stand more chance of an approval if you apply by post. If you don't qualify for FLR(M), you should be issued with a FLR(FP) visa at the Case Worker's discretion.[/quote]

Thank you for that I will do more research into that - I will have to start a new thread on this as I have several questions. I.E if I get a new job, it will require a relocation how do I go about changing the address for return application let alone how my wife can register with police if they the UKVI have her police registration form.

I don't want to be rude, but this has still not answered my original question(s) about the letter in question and its format or will it not matter then because I am employed now?

[CR001]

The letter from your previous employer is irrelevant as you are no longer employed with them. Any employment letter needs to be from current employer.

Please ask your questions on either FLR(M) or FLR(FP) in this thread rather than starting a new one.

[azo]

[quote="CR001"]The letter from your previous employer is irrelevant as you are no longer employed with them. Any employment letter needs to be from current employer.

Please ask your questions on either FLR(M) or FLR(FP) in this thread rather than starting a new one.[/quote]

Thank you.

[Casa]

it may seem harsh, but from the Case Worker's point of view they need to see evidence that you will be self-supporting (without Public Funds) for the next 2.5 year period. In the same way that you were required to do so for the initial spouse visa. If your wife is granted FLR(FP), which is a longer route to permanent settlement, once you are able to meet in required income level she would be able to submit an application to switch to FLR(M).

If seeking professional advice, ensure the legal advisor is either OISC registered (preferably level 3) or is a solicitor specialising in Immigration law and registered with the law society.

[azo]

[quote="Casa"]it may seem harsh, but from the Case Worker's point of view they need to see evidence that you will be self-supporting (without Public Funds) for the next 2.5 year period. In the same way that you were required to do so for the initial spouse visa. If your wife is granted FLR(FP), which is a longer route to permanent settlement, once you are able to meet in required income level she would be able to submit an application to switch to FLR(M).

If seeking professional advice, ensure the legal advisor is either OISC registered (preferably level 3) or is a solicitor specialising in Immigration law and registered with the law society.[/quote]

Yes seeking further professional advice is what we indeed to do and I think a postial application could help us or at least extend her time in the UK if she is asked to leave.

With regards to the 2.5 year period, when my wife did the initial application (in China) I was on a 1 year temporary contract after working 3 years in a role that even with my savings didn't meet the financial requirements and this has what has got me into a fuss about this application.

Regards

[CR001]

How did she get a visa if you did not meet the financial requirement?

[azo]

[quote="CR001"]How did she get a visa if you did not meet the financial requirement?[/quote]

No no, I think there is some confusion here, when she initially applied, I was +6 months into a temporary contract that did meet the requirement. It was the period 3 years before this temporary contract that did not meet the requirements.

Regards

[CR001]

The requirement was to provide proof of employment for the previous 6 months and ongoing employment to meet the financial requirements. The time prior to the 6 months is irrelevant.

You now have to prove the same, six months employment/income and ongoing employment or substantial savings.

[azo]

[quote="CR001"]The requirement was to provide proof of employment for the previous 6 months and ongoing employment to meet the financial requirements. The time prior to the 6 months is irrelevant.

You now have to prove the same, six months employment/income and ongoing employment or substantial savings.[/quote]

Yes, thank you, I think we have to leave it at this for the time being. I know that its the same this time around and that the "ongoing employment" is our major problem for this application.

My main concern for the time being was proving the income for the last 6 months but if the letter is irrelevant its not going to matter what form it is in and that has answered my questions.

Regards

[Casa]

The last 6 months payslips + corresponding bank statements will be proof of your earnings during the last 6 month period.

[azo]

Thank you for your time today its been great help in reducing my stress somewhat.

[Casa]

You're welcome. Come back if you're stuck with anything else for the application.

[CR001]

The last 6 months payslips + corresponding bank statements will be proof of your earnings during the last 6 month period.

Even if OP is currently unemployed (for almost a month) and no job offer in hand for FLR(M)?

Ah! Missed that one Char.

[azo]

Hi, I just had a chat with my wife and we think we will be applying via post.

One thing that has popped up is the biometric residence permit, we had hoped she would be submitting her biometric date when she apply using the one day premium service but that is not the case now. However, she did submit her details back in China 2013, however we don't yet have a card, if she submits them again (Tuesday) how long before she will receive the card through the post. The help guidelines say 10 days after the decision letter (I take that the card application and not the visa application)

Also, due to the "wording" of FLR(m) application form, I am still scratching my head over it I have another question.

Does she need to be in receipt of the card when she makes a FLR(m) application or will she get information of the card application at the post office that can be used on the FLR(m) form?

[azo]

[quote="CR001"][quote="Casa"]The last 6 months payslips + corresponding bank statements will be proof of your earnings during the last 6 month period.[/quote]
Even if OP is currently unemployed (for almost a month) and no job offer in hand for FLR(M)?

Ah! Missed that one Char. [/quote]

May last wageslip is dated 30/03/16, with payment going into my bank on the 31/03/16, I did get pay at the end of each month and my employment was terminated on the 11th March. We will not be making until we have gotten the latest bank statement which will arrive by 2nd class post around about the 09/04.16.

Regards

[Casa]

I'd say submit them. Better more than less.

[azo]

[quote="Casa"]I'd say submit them. Better more than less.[/quote]

I was thinking of submitting 12 months worth of wage slips and bank statements - I am just getting more and more stress over it.

[CR001]

Biometrics are done on the day at the in person appointment and the BRP card usually arrives within a few days. No extra charge.

It is not something you have to do before and have a card before you can apply.

If you apply by post, HO will send her a letter to go to the Post Office to enroll her biometrics. The Post Office charges for this (£19-20)